Calculating Time for Sound to Reach Bottom of Mine Shaft

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The problem involves calculating the total time it takes for a stone dropped into a 122.5 m deep mine shaft to reach the bottom and for the sound of the impact to travel back to the original poster, Carol. The subject area pertains to kinematics and sound propagation.

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  • Participants discuss the time taken for the stone to fall and the time for the sound to travel back up. There are questions about whether to add or multiply times, and some participants express uncertainty about the calculations involved.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the time calculations, with some suggesting the use of kinematic equations while others question the initial assumptions about the time taken for sound to travel. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to calculate the fall time of the stone separately.

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There is a lack of clarity regarding the correct application of formulas and the interpretation of the results, particularly concerning the time taken for sound to travel and the total time calculation. Some participants express confusion about the role of the "2" in the calculations.

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1. Carol drops a stone into a mine shaft 122.5 m deep. How soon after she drops the stone does she hear it hit the bottom of the shaft?



2. d= vt



3. d=vt
t = d/v
= (122.5/343)2
= .7143s
I'm not sure if i multiply by 2 or divide by 2 or just not put a 2 there, but i multiplied because i think the sound hits the bottom then goes back up to where Carol is. So that would double the time?
 
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t = d/v is the time taken by the sound from bottom of the mine to reach Carol. But you have not taken the time required by the stone to travel from Carol to bottom of the mine.
 
rl.bhat said:
t = d/v is the time taken by the sound from bottom of the mine to reach Carol. But you have not taken the time required by the stone to travel from Carol to bottom of the mine.

so i add (122.5/343) to the 0.7143s?
 
whitehorsey said:
so i add (122.5/343) to the 0.7143s?
No. That is not the time. Use kinematics equation to find the time of fall of the stone.
 
rl.bhat said:
No. That is not the time. Use kinematics equation to find the time of fall of the stone.

so i use this eq. d =vit + 1/2at2?
getting t2 = 122.5/.5(9.8)
= 5 s

thus all togther would be 5 + .7143 = 5.7143 s
 
d=vt
t = d/v
= (122.5/343)2
= .7143s

If time is distance divided by velocity, what does the "2" signify when you multiply it in the third line here?
 
whitehorsey said:
so i use this eq. d =vit + 1/2at2?
getting t2 = 122.5/.5(9.8)
= 5 s

thus all togther would be 5 + .7143 = 5.7143 s
No. It should be 5s + 0.35715s
 
rl.bhat said:
No. It should be 5s + 0.35715s

oh i see thank you!
 

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