Calculating Tire/Tyre Forces in Weight Distribution of 1400kg Car

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The discussion revolves around calculating the forces distributed on the tires of a 1400kg car, particularly focusing on the normal forces T1 and T2 based on the car's weight distribution and dimensions provided. Participants are exploring the relationships between these forces and the overall weight of the car.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to use ratios of distances (d1 and d2) to relate the tire forces (T1 and T2) and are questioning the validity of their calculations based on the total weight of the car. There is also a mention of adding a weight to the car and considering how that affects the normal forces at the wheels.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the relationships between the forces and the weight distribution. Some have suggested that the total forces on the tires may need to account for additional factors, such as the presence of more wheels or additional weights, indicating a productive exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the total force calculations and the assumption that the car has four wheels, which may affect the interpretation of the forces involved. Participants are also grappling with the implications of adding weight to the car and how that changes the normal forces at the wheels.

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This is a lill awkward question but I need to know. A car has the mass 1400kg. What force will be distributed on each tire/tyre?
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           ________________
         /                 \
       /                    \
 ____/                       \___
 |       |----d1--|G|-d2-|      |
 |-------O---------------O---------
         T1             T2

G is the mass center and d1 = 1386mm, d2 = 964mm. First of all, it (the paper) says T1 = 2820N and T2 = 4050N. But 4050+2820 = 6870 != mg = 13734. How could this be and how would I calculate T1 and T2? My logic (and I guess my best, of many, shots)told me that maybe d1/d2 = T2/T1. We also know that T1+T2=mg. So I used this and got T1 = 2418N and T2 = 11315N. Not quite correct.

/daniel
 
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it appears that if t1+t2 were doubled it would account for the extra force missing and for the other two wheels on the other side of the car.
 
A car has 4 wheels?:biggrin:

Cheers mate, cheers!:-p
 
Now to a little harder problem.

A 100kg weight is added on the red spot. Calculate the changes in the normal force reactions at the three wheels due to the weight of the box.

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7644/car7pu.png

In the last one I could use the equations d1/d2 = T2/T1 and T1+T2=mg. But for this one I only can use the last condition (A+B+C=mg). The only tactics I could come up with was to split the box up in (three?) pieces and move them (hopefully under each wheel) and add torques if necessary. But this seems so comprehensive, and I'm not even sure it will work.

Any help please?
 
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Please? I'm not finding any other relationships.
 

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