Calculating Total Moment and Distance from Point A

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The discussion revolves around calculating the resultant of multiple forces and their total moment about a specific point, A. The forces involved are given specific values, and there is a focus on determining the perpendicular distance from point A to the line of action of a resultant single force that would have the same effect as the combined forces.

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  • Participants discuss breaking down forces into their x and y components to clarify distances and moments. There are questions about how to find the distance from point A to each force and how to represent the total force visually.

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Some participants have provided guidance on calculating moments and components, suggesting methods for determining the resultant force and its distance from point A. There is ongoing exploration of how to calculate the moments from both x and y components, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the angles in the provided diagram are not accurately drawn, which may affect their calculations. There is also a focus on ensuring all components are considered in the moment calculations.

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Calculate the resultant of the four forces shown and their total moment about A. Hence determine the perpendicular distance from A to the line of the single force which would have the same effect as the forces F1, F2, F3 and F4 combined.
Assume the following values:
F1 = 55N, F2 = 33N, F3 = 74N and F4 = 68N
Note that, in this diagram, angles shown are not drawn accurately



Could you please give me some clue of how to answer this question? my main problem is that I don't know how to find the distance between A and each forces, I'm so confused.
Thanks for your help.
 

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If you break up each of the forces into their x and y components, the perpendicular distances from the line of action of the forces components to point A will become obvious. Then the moment about A of all forces can be obtained by summing all moments of each component force. Watch plus and minus signs.
 
PhanthomJay,Thank you very much,Considering what you said I used this formula to find each force and then The total force:

F * (sin or cos) * perpendicular distance = MomentF1 * sin90 * 2 = 110
F2 * sin78 * 5 = 161.39
F3 * sin42 * 3 = 148.54
-(F4) * cos77 * 2 = -30.59

the total force = 389.34

If this is right then how can I find the prependicular distance for the total force? or how can I draw the total force on the picture?
 
Jellypa said:
PhanthomJay,Thank you very much,Considering what you said I used this formula to find each force and then The total force:

F * (sin or cos) * perpendicular distance = Moment


F1 * sin90 * 2 = 110
F2 * sin78 * 5 = 161.39
F3 * sin42 * 3 = 148.54
-(F4) * cos77 * 2 = -30.59
These values are the correct moments of the y components of the forces about A. You need to calculate the moments of the x components also.
the total force = 389.34
This is the total moment about A from the y component of forces. You need to determne the total moments from the x component of the forces also.
If this is right then how can I find the prependicular distance for the total force? or how can I draw the total force on the picture?
The sum total of the y components of forces is the y component of the resultant single force, Ry. The sum of the total x components of forces is the x component of the resultant single force, Rx. If you divide the total moment of the y component forces by the total y component forces, you get the perp distance from the line of action of Ry to A. If you divide the total moment of the x component forces by the total x component forces, you get the perp distance from the line of action of Rx to A. The magnitude and direction of R is determined from pythagoras' theorem and trig, and it passes through the coordinate where Rx and Ry meet.
 
PhanthomJay , You are brilliant, Thank you so much, couldn't be explained better than that.
wonderful.
 

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