Calculating Velocity of Constantly Accelerating Object: A Physics Lesson

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of an object under constant acceleration, with considerations for relativistic effects and the appropriate formulas to use in different scenarios. Participants explore the implications of velocity addition and its relevance in special relativity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the appropriate formulas for calculating velocity under constant acceleration and questions the context in which velocity addition should be applied. Some participants discuss the mathematical derivation of velocity equations and the implications of relativistic effects on acceleration and mass.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the velocity addition formulas being explored. Some participants suggest looking into published physics books for more reliable information, while others provide mathematical insights and clarify concepts related to special relativity.

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Participants note the lack of specific examples and express a desire for more comprehensive resources on the application of physics formulas, particularly in the context of relativistic scenarios.

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If we have an object that is theoretically set to accelerate constantly for an unknown amount of time (disregarding the issues that alone brings up), what formula would be used to calculate its velocity? I know we can determine final velocity for after t amount of time, but would velocity-addition be more appropriate?

I'm attempting to teach myself physics and while I know of velocity-addition and final velocity, I haven't found a place that indicates under cases to use them.

Does anyone have a site they personally know that is any good for physics instruction?
 
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What do you mean by velocity addition?

[tex]a = \frac{d^2 x}{dt^2} = \frac{dv}{dt}[/tex]

treat as differentials

[tex]\int_{t'=0}^{t'=t}a dt' = \int_{v(0)=v_0}^{v(t)} dv[/tex]

gives an equation for velocity based on an initial velocity

[tex]v(t) = v_0 + at[/tex]

If you want to get rid of the time dependencies then solve for t

[tex]t = (v - v_0)/a[/tex]

Then because you know that (from the mean value theorem if you have done it)

[tex]x = \vec{v}t = (1/2)(v_0 + v)t[/tex]

Where we have already figured out t that.

[tex]x = (v+v_0)(v-v_0)/2a[/tex]

So solve for velocity

[tex]v^2 = v_0^2 + 2ax[/tex]

I don't think that relying on websites to learn physics is such a good idea. I would see what the library has in terms of books. I think that Randall Knight has a pretty good introductory physics book if your library has it.
 
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Oh, I see what you are asking. You are wondering whether if some acceleration is applied to an object for long enough, do you have to consider relativistic effects? I guess the short answer would be yes. The thing is though that as the particles velocity increases, its mass will increase too, and so whatever is forcing it will have a harder and harder time accelerating it. There will, in a way, be a limiting acceleration (and therefore a limiting velocity) that will depend on the force and the mass.

The safest thing to do with relativity is to use the equations that always work, which are conservation of energy, and conservation of momentum. For example, rather than F=ma, which is true only in general (i.e. non-relativistic cases) you should use F = dp/dt.

Do you have a specific example, or are you just wondering?
 
No real specific example. It's just, I read about these formulas and such, but haven't found a place that really discusses to what, where and why they're used.
 
Okay. If you haven't figured out by now, the velocity addition formulas relate to special relativity. My previous suggestion still stands of finding a published book, Knight even covers special relativity if you can find the big book with all volumes in one, rather than trusting internet Joe Schmo.
 
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Okay. If you haven't figured out by now, the velocity addition formulas relate to special relativity. My previous suggestion still stands of finding a published book, Knight even covers special relativity if you can find the big book with all volumes in one, rather than trusting internet Joe Schmo.

Yup, I've been reading a lot about GR and SR recently. But I'll start perusing for books. Thanks :D
 
Mindscrape is, of course, right. But here's a Schmo who seems to know what he's talking about with some graphs for a preview. Can you check that he is right?
http://physics.nmt.edu/~raymond/classes/ph13xbook/node59.html
 
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