Calculating Volume with the Shell Method for Enclosed Region

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of a solid formed by rotating a region enclosed by the curve y=e^x + 5, the x-axis, and vertical lines at x=0 and x=0.1. The original poster attempts to use the shell method for this calculation but expresses difficulty in setting up the integral correctly.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the integral for the shell method, with some suggesting adjustments to the original poster's approach. There is also a mention of potential confusion regarding the axis of rotation and the appropriate method to use.

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The conversation includes various attempts to clarify the correct setup for the problem, with some participants questioning the assumptions made about the axis of rotation. There is no explicit consensus, but multiple interpretations and suggestions are being explored.

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Participants express frustration with the teaching methods and classroom environment, which may be impacting their understanding of the material. There is a mention of the original poster's past success in calculus, indicating a potential disconnect between previous knowledge and current challenges.

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I used to be able to do stuff like this when i was in high school but now I am in college and i can't do basic stuff like this. the problem this sub problem is from is

Find the volume of the solid formed by rotating the region enclosed by
y=e^{ x} + 5, \ y=0, \ x=0, \ x=0.1

Im trying to solve it with the shell method but i can't seem to get it right

I thought should be the integral from 0 to .1 of (xe^x)+(5x) and then times 2pi for the # in front of the integral.
 
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Try times 2*0.1*Pi in front of the integral.
 
psh my bad the answer was .19067 and not .19037. I hate doing work online for a class where the professor wastes 40 minutes explaining the stupid theorem behind why the shell method works when she could have just put the formula up and i would have gotten it right away. Maybe I am just dumb but i got a 5 on the ap calculus exam and the highest grade in the class both semesters. Why do the professors waste so much time on pointless crap?
 
radou said:
Try times 2*0.1*Pi in front of the integral.

Why? (more characters)
 
prox9 said:
psh my bad the answer was .19067 and not .19037. I hate doing work online for a class where the professor wastes 40 minutes explaining the stupid theorem behind why the shell method works when she could have just put the formula up and i would have gotten it right away. Maybe I am just dumb but i got a 5 on the ap calculus exam and the highest grade in the class both semesters. Why do the professors waste so much time on pointless crap?
Yes, it's terrible when professors expect you to learn something instead of just memorizing formulas. Why that would involve thinking!
 
Maybe, it's the fact that she has a thick accent and every seat except the front center seats can't read the majority of the stuff she writes on the board since the classroom is big and flat and not sloped as it should be for a class that size. Though I probably shouldn't complain given that this is low math compared to what I'm going to have to do later on.
 
d_leet said:
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I assumed rotation around the y-axis. If it's rotation around the x-axis, then [tex]\pi \int_{0}^{0.1}(e^x+5)^2dx[/tex] is used.
 
prox9 said:
Maybe, it's the fact that she has a thick accent and every seat except the front center seats can't read the majority of the stuff she writes on the board since the classroom is big and flat and not sloped as it should be for a class that size. Though I probably shouldn't complain given that this is low math compared to what I'm going to have to do later on.
Then make sure you get a set in the front center! When I was a freshman, I had a teacher who talked about "delters" and "epsilons". I couldn't complain- it was in Boston and that's their language. When I was in graduate school I had a teacher from Cuba. A friend asked if she could copy the teacher's notes (he taught from several pages of notes!) but they were all in Spanish!
 
prox9 said:
Maybe, it's the fact that she has a thick accent and every seat except the front center seats can't read the majority of the stuff she writes on the board since the classroom is big and flat and not sloped as it should be for a class that size. Though I probably shouldn't complain given that this is low math compared to what I'm going to have to do later on.
Then make sure you get a seat in the front center! When I was a freshman, I had a teacher who talked about "delters" and "epserlons". I couldn't complain- it was in Boston and that's their language. When I was in graduate school I had a teacher from Cuba. A friend asked if she could copy the teacher's notes (he taught from several pages of notes!) but they were all in Spanish!

Now, I teach in sign language, my students are all deaf or hard of hearing and they have to put up with my "accent"!
 
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radou said:
I assumed rotation around the y-axis. If it's rotation around the x-axis, then [tex]\pi \int_{0}^{0.1}(e^x+5)^2dx[/tex] is used.

But the original post specifically said that the shell method was being used and not rotation about either axis.
 
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intergration by parts is your friend, at least for the first bit. the second bit you can, as I am sure you know, do separately

oh and i think the previous posters are missing the x infront of the exponential, or I am missing something you guys said
 
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d_leet said:
But the original post specifically said that the shell method was being used and not rotation about either axis.

Sorry. Wasn't familiar with the term 'shell method'.
 

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