Calculating Water Vapor Pressure at 160 F: Understanding Fluid Mechanics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the vapor pressure of water at 160°F, particularly in the context of fluid mechanics and the potential for cavitation in piping systems. Participants explore methods for determining vapor pressure and the implications for fluid transport in engineering applications.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to calculate the vapor pressure of water at 160°F, indicating a need for clarity on the topic.
  • Another participant cites a handbook stating that the vapor pressure of water at 160°F is equivalent to 4.73 psi, providing a specific value for reference.
  • A different participant expresses a preference for looking up vapor pressure values in tables rather than calculating them, suggesting reliance on established resources.
  • One participant reiterates the importance of saturation conditions for vapor and liquid coexistence, emphasizing the need to reference saturation pressure at the specified temperature.
  • Another participant discusses the dynamics of fluid transport, noting that pressure must remain above saturation pressure to avoid cavitation, especially in bends and fittings within a piping system.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying approaches to determining vapor pressure, with some advocating for calculations and others preferring reference tables. There is no consensus on the best method, and the discussion remains open regarding the implications of vapor pressure in fluid mechanics.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for thermodynamics texts for further correlations and calculations, indicating potential limitations in the discussion regarding assumptions about fluid behavior and the conditions under which vapor pressure is relevant.

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When a fluid flows through a sharp bend, low pressure may develop in localized regions of the bend. Estimate the minimum vapor absolute pressure in psi that can develop without causing cavitation if the fluid is water at 160 F.

How does one calculate the vapor pressure of water when given a temperature? Thanks.
 
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I can tell you from a handbook that the VP of water at 160 is 10.9 ft of water = 4.73 psi and at 212 it is 33.9 ft of water.
 
I must say that I can't remember ever having to calculate the vapor pressure of something, unless it was a mixture. I'd have to say that I would simply look it up in a table and be done with it.

I am sure there are some thermosynamics texts that would show some correlations.
 
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When a fluid flows through a sharp bend, low pressure may develop in localized regions of the bend. Estimate the minimum vapor absolute pressure in psi that can develop without causing cavitation if the fluid is water at 160 F.
How does one calculate the vapor pressure of water when given a temperature? Thanks.
As Fred mentioned, check a thermodynamics text. The only way one can have vapor with a liquid of the same compound is if the mixture is a saturation conditions. So what one would look for is the saturation pressure of water at 160°F.

Ideally water is transported as a compressed liquid, but there the pressure drops along a pipe by friction and when changing direction (momentum) in a fitting, e.g. an 'L'. For a piping system to transport liquid the lowest pressure is obviously at the end, and if the fluid is to remain a liquid, the lowest pressure must be greater than the saturation pressure. This assumes that there is not heat input into the pipe or fluid transport system.
 

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