Calculating Work using the Integral Method | Density of Water Formula

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The discussion revolves around calculating work using the integral method, specifically in the context of determining the work required to lift water from a tank. The problem involves the density of water and the gravitational force acting on it.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the setup of the integral for calculating work, questioning the assumption that all water must be lifted the same distance. There is a discussion about dividing the water into cylindrical slices to better understand the varying distances each slice must be lifted.

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Some participants have provided guidance on refining the approach to the problem, emphasizing the importance of considering the distance each slice of water must be lifted. The original poster has acknowledged the advice and indicated progress towards a solution.

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There is a mention of specific values for the density of water and gravitational acceleration, as well as limits for the integral. The original poster's initial calculations were based on an incorrect assumption about the lifting distance for all water.

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Homework Statement


WorkDoneIntegral.png

Homework Equations


W = \int F dx

For density of water i used
D = 62.4lb/ft^3
g = 32.2 ft/s^2

g(D = \frac{m}{V})

gDV = mg

gDV = F

The Attempt at a Solution


i use limit from 0 to 6
W = \int_{0}^{6} F dx

W = \int_{0}^{6} gDV dx

W = \int_{0}^{6} (32.2)(62.4)(\pi{6}^{2}{15}) dx

W = 20451979.29

help check this pls
 
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DrunkEngineer said:

Homework Statement


WorkDoneIntegral.png



Homework Equations


W = \int F dx

For density of water i used
D = 62.4lb/ft^3
g = 32.2 ft/s^2

g(D = \frac{m}{V})

gDV = mg

gDV = F

The Attempt at a Solution


i use limit from 0 to 6
W = \int_{0}^{6} F dx

W = \int_{0}^{6} gDV dx

W = \int_{0}^{6} (32.2)(62.4)(\pi{6}^{2}{15}) dx

W = 20451979.29

help check this pls

This is incorrect. You are assuming that all of the water has to be lifted 15 feet, and this is not the case. Mentally divide the water into cylindrical slices, each of which is \pi*36*\Delta y in volume. From the volume, you can get to the weight of each slice, but the distance a slice of water has to be pumped depends on where the slice is in the tank. The layers (slices) at the top require almost no effort to pump out, since they don't need to be lifted very far. The ones at the bottom require a lot more work, since the have to be lifted much farther.
 
found the answer thanks for the advice

slice of cylindrical element anywhere inside cylinder
dV = 36{\pi}dy

dF = 32.2(62.4(\pi{36})dy)

work done from this differential element to the top: then (distance = 15 - y)
dW = 32.2(62.4(\pi{36})dy)(15-y)

W = \int_{0}^{15} dW
etc.

W = 25564974lb-ft

W = 793943slugs-ft
 
I didn't verify your numbers, but what you have looks to be set up correctly.
 

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