Calculation - impact force on a bollard

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around estimating the wall thickness required for a bollard to withstand the impact of a vehicle traveling at 30 mph, with a focus on calculations involving material properties and structural integrity. Participants explore different approaches to determine the necessary specifications for bollard design under impact conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a scenario where a 30 mph vehicle impacts a bollard with a specified energy of 667 kJ, detailing the dimensions and material properties of the bollard.
  • Another participant calculates a wall thickness of 46 mm for a second bollard design, questioning whether this is a fair estimation based on the second moment of area.
  • A different participant suggests that if limiting stress is the criterion, the elastic section modulus should be used instead of the second moment of area, and if collapse is the criterion, the plastic section modulus should be considered.
  • One participant inquires about methods to calculate the required thickness without referencing the initial case.
  • Another participant mentions that the energy information provided could allow for the calculation of an equivalent static force.
  • A later reply seeks clarification on the meaning of the previous statement regarding equivalent static force.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods for calculating the required wall thickness and the criteria for structural integrity, indicating that multiple competing approaches remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Assumptions regarding the failure mode, material behavior under impact, and the simplification of vehicle deformation are noted but not resolved.

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i need to work some estimations for this case for an assignment

30mph vehicle hits a bollard with 667kJ
bollard height = 1m
vehicle hits the bollard at approx height of 0.7m
material = mild steel
ultimate strength = 400mpa

in one case the bollard is 219mm ext diameter with 10mm wall thickness
the information given is that the bollard withstood the impact

The second case i need to work out what the wall thickness should be for a 150mm ext diameter bollard to withstand the same impact

assume the failure won't be at the floor fixings
for the time being i will ignore the fact the car deforms as well as the bollard, and there are different levels of impact(front bumper, engine etc.)
 
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i've worked out 46mm wall thickness for the second case if i equate second moment of area of the first and second case.
is that a fair estimation?
 
If a limiting stress isthe crierion, then use elastic section modulus (I/y), rather than second moment of area I. If collapse is the criterion use plastic section modulus.
 
Thanks for the advice

Do you know of a way to calculate the thickness without comparing it to the initial case?
 
The information on energy given suggests you can obtain an equivalent static force.
 
what do you mean?
 

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