Calculation of leakage from a sealed room

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the airflow leakage from a sealed room based on pressure drop measurements over time. Participants explore the application of a specific equation for airflow and the challenges associated with accurately determining room leakage, considering factors such as flow type and measurement methods.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an equation for calculating differential airflow based on room leakage area and pressure drop, detailing a specific example with numerical values.
  • Another participant suggests conducting an error analysis of both the presented method and an alternative method to identify discrepancies.
  • A different participant expresses confusion over the calculations and requests clarification on the steps taken in the initial post.
  • It is noted that room leakage is influenced not only by the area of leaks but also by their geometry, which complicates the calculations.
  • One participant references the source of the equation used and emphasizes the need to calculate differential airflow to determine room leakage accurately.
  • Another participant warns that the method of measuring leakage may be prone to significant errors due to the assumptions made about flow type, suggesting that laminar flow may be relevant for small leaks.
  • It is proposed that measuring leak rate against pressure difference might yield a linear relationship, and an alternative method using compressed air could be more effective for low leak rates.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the accuracy and applicability of the initial calculation method, with some suggesting potential errors and others seeking clarification on the methodology. No consensus is reached regarding the best approach to measure room leakage.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of measuring airflow leakage, including the impact of flow type (laminar vs turbulent) and the geometry of leaks, which may not be fully accounted for in the initial calculations.

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Hello Everyone,

I am trying to calculate the openings of a sealed room according to a pressure drop in a specific time.
I have the following equation:

Q = 840*A*√(dP)

Q: differential airflow in liters/sec
A: room leakage in m2
dP: differential pressure in Pa

So, if for example we have a room of 500m3 at atmospheric pressure 101325 Pa and we increase its pressure** by 80 Pa and then measure how much time it will need to decrease for 30Pa we can calculate the differential airflow by the following:

(Psi + Pstart) * V1 = (Psi + Pfinish) * V2 <=>
(101325+80) * V1 = (101325+50) * V2 <=>
V2 = 500.148m3

So because of a dP of 30Pa we get 148 liters difference.
If that dP occurred in 180sec then we get Q= 148/180 = 0.82 liters/sec
If we then put this number to the initial equation we get the room leakage.

My problem is that the results that I get are different from another method that is used to find the room leakage. So obviously there is a mistake in the above calculations but I can't find what.

**The pressure increase of the room is achieved by using a blower and the temperature is stable.

Does anyone have an idea?
Thank you in advance!
 
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Do an error analysis of your method. Do an error analysis of the other method. Compare. If the error bands from two different methods do not overlap, there is a mistake somewhere. Keep digging until you find it.
 
I'm not following what you did; it looks like you posted an equation and then did somethjing else instead...which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Can you explain what you did?

In either case, room leakage is difficult because it isn't just a function of leak area, but leak geometry; there is less flow through long skinny cracks than short fat ones.
 
This equation Q = 840*A*√(dP) comes from the 1999 Ashrae Application Handbook, Fire and Smoke Management. Since I am interested on finding the A which is the room leakage I need to find a way to calculate the Q which is the differential airflow.

That is where the second part of the calculation comes where I presume that if I know the initial volume of the room and the dP in a specific amount of time then I can calculate the differential air volume.
 
An error analysis will show that your method of measuring leakage is subject to large errors from multiple sources.

Your equation assumes turbulent flow through the leakage path, which is correct for large leaks. Small leaks will have laminar flow. I don't have a reference at hand, but if you search blower door testing of buildings, you will find a discussion of this. The effect of laminar vs turbulent flow is significant in a structure with leak rate over 100 times higher than your sealed room.

If you measure leak rate vs pressure difference, I expect you will find that leak rate is linearly proportional to pressure difference. Since your leak rate is so low, you might be better off to measure flow rate using compressed air with an orifice. A little 1/2 hp air compressor will flow the liter per second that you need.
 

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