Calculus 3: Show Intersection of Tetrahedron Vertices & Centers of Gravity

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The problem involves demonstrating that the intervals connecting the vertices of a tetrahedron with the centers of gravity of opposite sides intersect at a single point, specifically the center of gravity of a normal tetrahedron, defined as (P+Q+R+S)/4. The context is rooted in vector analysis within a calculus framework.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of using vectors and consider the implications of uniform density in the tetrahedron. Some suggest using triple integration, while others express confusion about the relevance of integration at this stage of their studies. There are also considerations about symmetry and the properties of the center of gravity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants are questioning the initial assumptions about the problem setup, while others are suggesting different approaches, including symmetry arguments and vector considerations. No consensus has been reached yet.

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There is mention of the class being at an early stage, with participants only recently introduced to vectors and not yet having covered integration. The uniformity of density in the tetrahedron is also under discussion, which may affect the approach taken.

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So we're suppose to show that the intervals connecting vertices of a tetrahedron with centers of gravity of opposite sides interesect at one point, namely the center of gravity of a normal tetrahedron. The center of gravity is (P+Q+R+S)/4.


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All I know is we have to somehow work with vectors so we at the end, we end up with result.


I really have no idea how to start. Please help :(
 
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you have to use triple integration. it's not really a proof, but a calculation.
 
That can't be right, we just barely started this class and we're only learning about vectors and haven't done anything with integration :bugeye:
 
you said center of gravity of a normal tetrahedron. that must involve triple integration, unless the density is uniform throughout the tetrahedron, which you did not state.

if the density is uniform, simply intersect two lines, each of which go from one vertex to the center of the opposite triangle, which is at one third the height of the triangle.
 
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Well we show that the lines going from one vertice to the center of gravity of opposite sides will end up crossing each other right in the middle of the tetrahedron(the very center). The problem says that at that point, we know the answer is (P+Q+R+S)/4 where the letters correspond to vertices. We're suppose to use vectors to show that, at that middle point, we'll get (P+Q+R+S)/4. I think you're interpreting it another way, perhaps this made more sense?
 
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you can think along the lines of use the center of gravity formula for 4 masses:

cg = [m1(P) + m2(Q) +m3(R) + m4(S)]/(m1+m2+m3+m4)

think of what m1,m2,m3,m4 would be in your special case.

but the symmetry argument using the interesection of two lines should also work too.
 
well there would be four lines all crossing at the center of gravity and I'm suppose to show that with vectors though because this is a vector problem. I know the physics concept of it(learned it last semester) but I need to show it with vectors. Do you have any ideas?
 
using nothing but vectors?

how about place the center of gravity at the origin, by symmetry (which we can use due to the simple conditions of the object) the four vertices must be equidistant from the origin. you can figure out the other symmetry properties to argue that the sum of the four vectors must be zero.

i don't like this solution very much, but i haven't taken vector courses since i was 11.
 
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hm...ok...i'll look into it. thanks
 

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