Calculus - Derivative of many exponents

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The problem involves finding the derivative of a function defined as h(t) = t^(π^3) + (π^3)^t + (π)t^33, which includes terms with constants and exponents. The original poster expresses confusion particularly about differentiating the first term, t^(π^3).

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to differentiate each term of the function but is uncertain about the first term, t^(π^3). Some participants suggest rewriting terms using properties of logarithms and exponentials to aid differentiation.

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Participants are engaging in a back-and-forth, with some providing hints and clarifications about the differentiation process. There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, particularly regarding the use of logarithms and exponentials in differentiation.

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The original poster indicates they are a high school senior and expresses a preference for seeing worked examples to understand the material better. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges faced in grasping these concepts.

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1. Homework Statement
Find the derivative.

2. Homework Equations
h(t)= t^(pi^3)+(pi^3)^t+(pi)t^33. The Attempt at a Solution
- i know that pi is a constant (number) so when finding it's derivative, it will be something like, (2nd part= (pi^3)^t ) : ln pi (pi^3)^t * 3t
- 3rd part = (pi)t^3 : 3(pi)t^2

- But the part I'm most confused is the first part = t^(pi^3)
- Would it be : 3pi(t^pi^3)*3pi ?

p.s: first part doesn't have any parenthesis around in the equation ( t^pi^3)
and sorry for such a messy equations. This is my first time using this forum.

ANSWER: pi^3)t^(pi^3-1) + ln (pi^3)^t + 3(pi)t^2
but i don't know how to.. get that
 
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welcome to pf!

hi jazxd! welcome to pf! :smile:

(have a pi: π and try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)
jazxd said:
- i know that pi is a constant (number) so when finding it's derivative, it will be something like, (2nd part= (pi^3)^t ) : ln pi (pi^3)^t * 3t

not quite :redface:

hint: rewrite (π3)t as (eln (π3))t = et(ln (π3))

alternatively as π3t = (eln π)3t = e3t(ln π)
- But the part I'm most confused is the first part = t^(pi^3)
- Would it be : 3pi(t^pi^3)*3pi ?

no … this is just tn with n = π3
 
hmm, i know n is a number so it would require ln but why also an e^ln ?
and doesn't e and ln cancel out @__@;
im sorry, I am only a senior in high school, and these stuff gets me big time.

so can you briefly show me how to do these 3 parts ?
im more like, "if i see the answer (or the works) first, i get it afterward" type learner
 
hi jazxd! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)
jazxd said:
hmm, i know n is a number so it would require ln but why also an e^ln ?

because you know how to differentiate et, but you don't know how to differentiate nt :smile:

(or, like me, even if you do know, you can't be sure you remember it right! :redface:)
and doesn't e and ln cancel out @__@;

yup! … that's why it works! :biggrin:

now try it yourself :smile:
 

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