[Calculus] Lost and what book to Use Next

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for calculus textbooks suitable for a student who has completed a year of calculus using Stewart's Calculus and is seeking a more rigorous and engaging review of the subject. Participants explore various options, including Kline's, Spivak's, and Apostol's texts, while considering the balance between rigor and accessibility.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses dissatisfaction with Kline's Calculus for being too easy and seeks a more challenging book.
  • Another suggests Spivak as a rigorous option that focuses on theorems and proofs, while cautioning that Apostol may not be exciting enough.
  • A different participant recommends a specific book they found interesting, claiming it offers a nice perspective on math without being overly difficult.
  • Some participants discuss the value of having solutions available for problems, with one arguing that answers can hinder learning and suggesting reliance on lecture notes instead.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for developing bad habits if students do not verify their answers, highlighting the need for some form of validation during self-study.
  • Another participant reiterates the depth and rigor of Spivak's Calculus compared to Stewart's text.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the necessity of solutions for learning and the appropriateness of various textbooks. There is no consensus on which book is definitively the best choice, as preferences vary based on individual learning styles and goals.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the importance of rigor and proof in their learning process, while others emphasize the need for engaging material. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and expectations regarding calculus education.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students transitioning from introductory calculus to more advanced studies in mathematics, physics, or computer science, particularly those seeking rigorous and engaging textbooks.

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Hello!

I have used Stewart's Calculus for the last year of Calculus and we made it through Taylor and MacLaurin Series. Next year we will be continuing. Since I really enjoyed calculus and I'm thinking of studying math/physics/computer science in college, I was looking for a good textbook to review calculus so far yet not feel boring. I was reading through Kline's Calculus: An Intuitive and Physical Approach, but it felt too easy and not even as rigorous as Stewart's, which I know is mainly an application based book. I read online that both Apostol and Spivak provide a rigorous review of calculus and will allow me to try my hand at proofs.

Which book will feel less like a review and more exciting to do even though I've learned quite a bit of calculus already? I was so bored reading through Kline and I want something hard but accessible (I'm a smart kid but I wasn't doing calculus in the womb or anything like that...).

Thanks

Edit: Just want to mention that I have no idea what happened to my title :-p
 
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It sounds like you know calculus. So what I recommend is trying the problems here, there are not a lot of them and they are very good. There are lecture notes and videos in case you get stuck.

For review, that is what I recommend. Or if you want a book, try https://www.amazon.com/dp/0137363311/?tag=pfamazon01-20 or one of their newer editions to get many problems.

Now, you asked about Spivak and Apostol. Apostol will surely not be exciting enough for you. Spivak will be but it is really a book about theorems and proofs. If that is what you want and you want to be challenged, try it. You can also look at https://archive.org/details/DifferentialIntegralCalculusVolI which is available online. I must admit, this one looks pretty good to me. Thank you to Mathwonk for this one. It is slightly less accessible but don't be frightened by it, read carefully and do all the questions, it would suffice as well.

Or, you could learn most of this from almost any real analysis book, if that is something you are interested in.
 
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verty said:
It sounds like you know calculus. So what I recommend is trying the problems here, there are not a lot of them and they are very good. There are lecture notes and videos in case you get stuck.

But there are no solutions online...? I always like to have solutions so I don't think I'm doing the right thing the whole time and meanwhile I'm completely wrong.
 
numbersloth said:
But there are no solutions online...? I always like to have solutions so I don't think I'm doing the right thing the whole time and meanwhile I'm completely wrong.

Personally, I think answers are a hindrance to learning. If you can't answer a question, go back to the notes/readings. I always like to say, for any homework problem there is a very similar example that you have already seen. Go back to it, study it. In this case, the examples are in the lecture notes and additional reading notes. The information is there, you just need to find it. That is so much better than looking at an answer.
 
verty said:
Personally, I think answers are a hindrance to learning. If you can't answer a question, go back to the notes/readings. I always like to say, for any homework problem there is a very similar example that you have already seen. Go back to it, study it. In this case, the examples are in the lecture notes and additional reading notes. The information is there, you just need to find it. That is so much better than looking at an answer.
But what if I feel sure that I am right, thus I don't look back over the lecture notes, and pick up bad habits? I agree that answers can cripple creativity and learning, but I also feel like they are necessary when someone is learning on their own.
 
numbersloth said:
But what if I feel sure that I am right, thus I don't look back over the lecture notes, and pick up bad habits? I agree that answers can cripple creativity and learning, but I also feel like they are necessary when someone is learning on their own.

You can always ask on the forums whether you did it right.
 
Another really good one is Calculus by Michael Spivak. Very in depth, very rigorous; much more so than the Stewart text.
 

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