Calorimetry Help: Calculating Final Temp of Iron & Aluminum in Water

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The discussion revolves around a calorimetry problem involving the calculation of the final temperature of a mixture of aluminum and iron pellets when placed in water. The participants explore the principles of heat transfer, specific heat capacities, and the necessary equations to solve the problem, focusing on the theoretical aspects of calorimetry.

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  • One participant describes the problem involving 5.00 g of aluminum and 10.00 g of iron heated to 100.0°C, mixed with 90.1 g of water at 21.0°C, and seeks assistance in calculating the final temperature.
  • Another participant suggests using the equation q = mC_p ΔT to approach the problem.
  • A different participant emphasizes the importance of using specific heat capacities rather than heat capacities based on mass, proposing to combine the specific heat capacities of the metals and water to find a final pseudo specific heat capacity.
  • One participant notes that the heat lost by the metals will be equal to the heat gained by the water, indicating that this is fundamentally an algebra problem.
  • Another participant provides a rearranged equation q = Cp * m * (Tf - Ti) to assist in the calculation, highlighting that the final temperature (Tf) is the unknown variable.

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Participants generally agree on the approach to equate the heat lost by the metals to the heat gained by the water, but there is no consensus on the specific steps or calculations needed to arrive at the final temperature.

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Participants have not resolved the specific mathematical steps required to calculate the final temperature, and there may be assumptions regarding the heat capacities and the system's isolation that are not explicitly stated.

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Calorimetry HELP!

Worked on this problem for an hour and cannot figure it out. Please help.

A 5.00 g sample of aluminum pellets (specific heat capacity = 0.89 J/°C·g) and a 10.00 g sample of iron pellets (specific heat capacity = 0.45 J/°C·g) are heated to 100.0°C. The mixture of hot iron and aluminum is then dropped into 90.1 g of water at 21.0°C. Calculate the final temperature of the metal and water mixture, assuming no heat loss to the surroundings.
 
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Hint: q = mC_p \Delta T
 
Yeah, its a tough one, because you must work with adding specific heat capacities (not heat capacities based off mass, but the specific ones) to find the final temperature, this would be like adding Cv(aluminium) . m(aluminium) + Cv(Water) . m(water) together to find a final pseudo specific heat capacity.

P.S. I really need to learn how to use those math symbols >,<
 
remember too that q from both metals will be absorbed by the water. you can equate the heat liberated from the metals to the heat absorbed by the water

it is just a long algebra problem,

having the equation like this might help

q = Cp* m *(Tf-Ti)

you know everything except Tf ; equate heat liberated to heat absorbed
 
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