Calorimetry problem (been stuck for an hour or so)

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The discussion revolves around a calorimetry problem involving the melting of ice and the thermal equilibrium of a mixture of ice and water. Participants are attempting to determine the original volume of water in a calorimeter after adding an ice cube at its melting point and reaching a final temperature of 15.0ºC.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the problem and expresses difficulty in finding the correct answer using the mcΔt formula.
  • Another participant suggests that the original poster may have forgotten to account for the phase change of the ice when calculating the heat exchange.
  • A later reply explains that the ice absorbs heat to change from solid to liquid, which involves using the heat of fusion in calculations.
  • Additionally, it is noted that the temperature change of the melted ice (now water) must also be considered in the calculations, indicating a need for a more complex equation that accounts for both melting and heating.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the correct approach to solve the problem, as there are differing views on the necessary considerations for the calculations.

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Participants highlight the need to incorporate phase change and temperature change in the calculations, but specific assumptions or definitions regarding the heat of fusion or other parameters are not detailed.

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A 25.0g ice cube at its melting point is added to a calorimeter water at 25.4ºC. When thermal equilibrium is reached, the final temperature of the mixture is at 15.0ºC. The original volume of water in the calorimeter was?
This is all the data given.
A. 93.4mL
B. 136mL
C. 209mL
D. 228mL


I used the mcΔt = mcΔt formula, but the answer didn't seem to match the options given in my assignment.

I've been trying to figure this out for more than an hour now...please someone help, if I am using the wrong formula correct me.
 
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you have probably forgotten to incorporate phase change of the ice
 
How would I do that? sorry I'm a little lost :cry:
 
no prob.

when you put ice in water, the ice absorbs heat from its surroundings to change from a solid to a liquid. that change is mΔH where ΔH is the heat of fusion (and can be looked up in a table).

so while the water releases heat at mcΔT because there is a temperature change, the ice absorbs the heat the water released, does not change temperature, but instead changes phase. make sense?
 
oh and don't forget you still have to account for the change in temperature of that now 25g of water up to 15 C, so you have both melting and heating on one side and cooling on the other side of the equation.
 

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