Cambridge Physics Problems: Electrostatics

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to electrostatics, specifically involving concepts such as the superposition principle and dipoles. Participants are exploring the complexity of the problem in the context of CIE A-Level physics and discussing relevant reading materials.

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  • Participants are questioning the difficulty of the problem and its suitability for CIE A-Level students. Some express confusion regarding specific parts of the problem and seek clarification on concepts like electric fields and potentials. Others suggest viewing the problem through the lens of dipoles and the superposition principle.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their perspectives on the problem's difficulty and exploring different approaches to understanding it. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of the superposition principle and the nature of dipoles, but no consensus has been reached on the overall complexity of the problem.

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There are indications of varying familiarity with electrostatics among participants, and some express uncertainty about the educational systems referenced, particularly regarding the equivalence of grade levels across different countries.

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Before I go about trying to futilly solve the question, is this thing beyond a CIE A-Lv physics student's reach or not? Any comments on the difficulty of the question, and perhaps the reading material which you would recommend before I attempt the question?

Thank you.
 
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Hi johnconnor :smile:

I don't exactly know what level CIE A-Lv is, but I am a grade 12 student, and the problem looks quite simple to me. What about it do you not understand? The first part, for example, simply relates to the Superimposition principle
 
Infinitum said:
Hi johnconnor :smile:

I don't exactly know what level CIE A-Lv is, but I am a grade 12 student, and the problem looks quite simple to me. What about it do you not understand? The first part, for example, simply relates to the Superimposition principle

Well yeah I can kind of explain the first part too - albeit in a un-professional way. But for the remaining parts, I was like WTH coz I've never dealt with electrostatic questions of this length.

The guide says:
This is a piece of physics that used to be a standard part of any electromagnetism course because magnetism was taught from the starting point of a short bar magnet with a N-pole at one end and S-pole at the other (...) If the distance from P to Q is written r(1 - a/r), the binomial expansion may be used where necessary, and this will simplify the algebra when adding the effect of -Q. Note that, because electric fields are vectors whereas potentials are scalars, each of the these quantities must be added accordingly (the point of the first part of the question).

One thing about CIE Physics is that it deals with rather narrow topics and emphasises with greater analysis on the questions, which is why I have touched very little on electrostatics.

Is grade 12 year 12 in UK? Which education system do you follow actually?
 
johnconnor said:
This is a piece of physics that used to be a standard part of any electromagnetism course because magnetism was taught from the starting point of a short bar magnet with a N-pole at one end and S-pole at the other (...) If the distance from P to Q is written r(1 - a/r), the binomial expansion may be used where necessary, and this will simplify the algebra when adding the effect of -Q. Note that, because electric fields are vectors whereas potentials are scalars, each of the these quantities must be added accordingly (the point of the first part of the question).


That's a bit confusing to explain this specific problem, and I don't see any real need to look at it the bar magnet way...

I would look at it as a dipole. What is the electric field due to a dipole along its axis?
 
Infinitum said:
I would look at it as a dipole. What is the electric field due to a dipole along its axis?
Actually I'm still quite stuck at parts (a) and (b). I haven't gone through the HCl part.

johnconnor said:
Is grade 12 year 12 in UK? Which education system do you follow actually?
What about this, Infinitum? =)
 
johnconnor said:
Actually I'm still quite stuck at parts (a) and (b). I haven't gone through the HCl part.

Well, that part also relates a dipole...A dipole has two charges of equal and opposite magnitude placed at a certain distance. :wink:

What about this, Infinitum? =)

I think yes, grade 12 is year 12 in UK.
 

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