Can a Hall sensor accurately calculate magnetic north for an LED board?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using a Hall sensor to determine magnetic north for an LED board. Participants explore various electronic components and methods for accurately calculating magnetic north, considering both practical implementations and theoretical challenges.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to calculate magnetic north using electronic circuits and considers using a Hall sensor, expressing uncertainty about how to achieve this.
  • Another suggests using a digital compass IC as a potential solution, providing links to products for reference.
  • A participant confirms that a linear Hall effect sensor could work, noting the need for either a 2D device or two 1D devices positioned at right angles for accurate readings.
  • Concerns are raised about the requirement of a magnet with a Hall sensor and how to determine the direction of magnetic north from the sensor readings.
  • One participant proposes measuring the X and Y magnetic fields from two sensors to calculate the direction using arctan, explaining how the readings would change based on the board's orientation.
  • Another participant discusses the suitability of specific sensors from a provided link, mentioning the trade-offs between digital and analog options and their implications for accuracy.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the use of Hall sensors and other components, with no consensus reached on the best approach or specific sensor choice. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal method for calculating magnetic north.

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Participants highlight the need for the board to be horizontal for accurate readings and the complexity introduced if the board is tilted. There are also considerations regarding the specifications and accuracy of different sensor options mentioned.

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hi there, hope I am posting in the right place...

im trying to calculate the direction of magnetic north, using electronic curcuits.
what i want to do is have a board with a circle of led lights and when i place the board in different places; the light pointting to the direction of north should light up.

i can work out all the electronic, what I am stuck with is how to calculate the magnetic north.
ive looked into fluxgate, but they are to diffcult to build, is there any way of doing this with a hall sensor, or any other components.

i just need a idea to get me going...

thanks a lot...


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pure
 
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Digital compass IC?

http://www.honeywell.com/sites/portal?smap=aerospace&page=Magnetic-Sensors3&theme=T15&catID=CF84B17AB-A90F-716D-10BC-A1E75441138E&id=HC1804CFD-B573-C5B4-9C0B-92928030FAAD&sel=2&sel4=2

If that's a little too pricey, here's a cheaper (and less accurate) one:
http://www.hvwtech.com/products_list.asp?CatID=114&SubCatID=214
 
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Yes a linear hall effect sensor is fine.
If you want to just put the board down you need a 2d device (or two 1d devices at right angles) if you can rotate the board around and just find a maximum then you only need 1.

BUT the board must be horizontal - if you want this to work while tilted you have a much more complicated problem.
 
if i use a hall sensor, that means i require a magnet. but then how do i get the direction of magnetic north?

thank for your ideas

pure!
 
purejoker said:
if i use a hall sensor, that means i require a magnet.
Your standing on it.

but then how do i get the direction of magnetic north?
Measure the X and Y magnetic fields from two sensors at right angles and take the arctan
Think about if the board was pointing North, the y sensor would read a maximum and the X sensor would read zero , if it was pointing east they would be the other way around.
 
if i use one of these, will it do the job! if yes, which is the best to use??

http://www.dinsmoresensors.com/index.html

thanks
pure!
 
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purejoker said:
if i use one of these, will it do the job! if yes, which is the best to use??

http://www.dinsmoresensors.com/index.html

thanks
pure!

Sure, but it depends on whether you're happy with 8 directions (the digital one), or if you need finer grain resolution (via an A/D converter). Not that you necessarily get a result that's any more accurate, however (the specs seem kind of sparse). If you choose one of the analog ones, note that one (the 1525) has a lower voltage swing than the other (1655). That means that you get less of a voltage change between, say, north and south.
 
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