Orion1
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Is this identity true?
Identity:
[tex]\frac{d}{dx} x^n = \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{(x + h)^n - x^n}{h} = nx^{n-1}[/tex]
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Orion1 said:Is this identity true?
Identity:
[tex]\frac{d}{dx} x^n = \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{(x + h)^n - x^n}{h} = nx^{n-1}[/tex]
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benorin said:Sure it's true, for non-negative integer n. Even for all [itex]n\neq -1[/itex].
Yes, it is.Orion1 said:Is it possible to solve the limit part of this equation in a classical way to produce the solution?
[tex]\frac{d}{dx} (\ln x) = \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{\ln(x + h) - \ln x}{h}[/tex]
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benorin said:Sure it's true, for non-negative integer n. Even for all [itex]n\neq -1[/itex].
mathwonk said:how do you prove that limit without knowing any derivative formulas for ln or exp?
agreed for integer nSince we have:
If [tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow \alpha} f(x) = L[/tex] then [tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow \alpha} f(x) ^ n = L ^ n[/tex] (n is some constant).
no, you can't say that. how did you go from integer n to k in R?We then can show that:
[tex]e ^ x = \lim_{k \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1 + \frac{x}{k} \right) ^ k, \ k \in \mathbb{R}[/tex]
From here, my book assumes that ex is continuous, and is increasing (since e > 1). (?)
They state that based on the fact that if a > 1 Then ax is increasing. However, they don't prove that fact. They say that it's generally accepted! (?)
I think I need to consult my maths teacher about this.
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So I think about some other way:
We can prove that:
(xa)' = axa - 1, for all a in the reals.
It would be nice if you can show me your book's definition of e. And how can they prove some log and exp's properties...
And may I know the name of the book?
matt grime said:Oh, and log(x) is (equivalent to being defined as) the integral from 1 to x of 1/t dt. You can prove everything you want to about logs from that definition, by the way, ie that log(xy)=log(x)+log(y) and that log(x^r)=rlog(x), in particular that log(1/x)=-log(x)
Orion1 said:[tex]f'(1) = \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \ln(1 + x)^{\frac{1}{x}} = 1[/tex]
[tex]f'(1) = 1[/tex]
VietDao29 said:So I would like to ask you guys what books in English that teach us Calculus
benorin said:Orion1, I like what you have: very good. But I cannot figure how you got this:
[tex]f'(1) = \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \ln [(1 + x)^{\frac{1}{x}}] = 1[/tex]
[tex]f'(1) = 1[/tex]
matt grime said:exp(x) is the uique solution to f'=f f(0)=1, it exists and is well defined, it has powerseries we know and love.
In anycase, e=1+1+1/2!+1/3!+...
mathwonk said:benorin, your post #20 is wrong as stated, do you see why? hint consider the word "unique".