Can a Rotating Magnet Prove the Relativity of Electric Fields?

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The discussion centers on the concept of charge density variations in different frames of reference, as introduced by Edward Purcell in the context of electric fields and relativity. A model called "big wave, little wave" is proposed to explain charge variations in superconductivity, linking larger charge variations to the motion of a rotating magnet and smaller variations to electron pair interactions with the crystal lattice. Participants express appreciation for the Feynman Lectures, which are recommended as valuable resources for understanding these complex physics concepts. There is also a query regarding the rigor of treating charge density similarly to charge in quantum field theory (QFT). Overall, the conversation highlights the intricate relationship between magnetism, charge density, and relativity in physics.
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I had forgotten about a web page I made several months ago. It's regarding a rotating magnet. There are some cool physics in this page so take a look

www.geocities.com/physics_world/em/rotating_magnet.htm

Back in the early 60's Edward Purcell came out with an idea of how to look at the relativity of electric fields in terms of charge densities. It's not a widely know fact but under some circumstances you can have a zero charge density in one frame of referance and a non-zero charge density in another. If you want to go into the excrutiaing detail the see also


"Magnetism, Radiaton, and Relativity," Daniel V. Schroeder, Weber
State University --physics.weber.edu/schroeder/mrr/MRRnotes.pdf


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An interesting page you have there.

I found out about the charge density variation when I was trying to understand superconductivity. It led to a model I call "big wave, little wave" where the big wave is the charge variation across the loop when it is turning and the little waves are the variations which couple the electron pairs to the vibrations of the crystal lattice.
 


Originally posted by Tyger
I found out about the charge density variation when I was trying to understand superconductivity. It led to a model I call "big wave, little wave" where the big wave is the charge variation across the loop when it is turning and the little waves are the variations which couple the electron pairs to the vibrations of the crystal lattice.

If you're interested in the details see the Feynman lectures. If youd don't have them then I put the relevant section online


http://www.geocities.com/physics_world/feynman-1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/physics_world/feynman-2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/physics_world/feynman-3.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/physics_world/feynman-4.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/physics_world/feynman-5.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/physics_world/feynman-6.jpg


Pete
 
I've got the Feynman Lectures

and would highly reccomend them to anyone who's serious about learning Physics. And they're a joy to read and study, he makes the ideas come alive. And the "big wave" idea came right out of Feynman, but I added the little waves to understand the Cooper Pair couplings in SC.

In a somewhat related question, I've always wondered about the legitimacy of treating charge density on the same footing as charge in QFT. Is it really rigorous?
 
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