Can a wind tunnel simulate a scramjet?

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The discussion centers on the capability of wind tunnels to simulate scramjet speeds, specifically within the Mach range of 6 to 12. Participants explore the technical aspects of hypersonic wind tunnels, their operational limitations, and the testing of air-breathing engines in such environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire whether wind tunnels can achieve scramjet speeds of Mach 6-12.
  • Others mention that certain facilities can simulate these speeds, but the test durations are typically very short due to the high pressures involved.
  • A participant notes that NASA Glenn Research Center has a hypersonic tunnel capable of reaching Mach 5-7 with a run time of about five minutes.
  • There is a discussion about whether high velocity air-breathing engines are tested in wind tunnels or through more experimental methods.
  • One participant asserts that ramjets and scramjets are indeed tested in wind tunnels, emphasizing the necessity of thorough testing before flight.
  • Another participant highlights that achieving the correct Mach number, Reynolds number, and stagnation enthalpy is crucial for proper simulation, but often compromises must be made in testing parameters.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the capabilities of wind tunnels, with some asserting that testing is feasible while others emphasize the complexities and limitations involved in achieving accurate simulations.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the short duration of tests in hypersonic wind tunnels and the challenges in achieving all necessary parameters for accurate engine simulation.

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Can a wind tunnel get up to scramjet speeds; ie. Mach 6-12?
 
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NASA Glenn Research Center has a hypersonic tunnel used for propulsion research that can reach Mach numbers between 5-7 and has about a 5 minute run time.

Many facilities that reach these speeds have very short run times because they are driven by releasing high pressure gas from an upstream reservoir. The tunnel can run until the reservoir is sufficiently used up.
 
Thank you. Do they test high velocity air-breathing engines like that, or using a more trial by fire method?
 
They definitely test these engines in wind tunnels. Ramjets and scramjets only work at high velocities and there is no way they would stick something untested on an aircraft and try to fly it.
 
There are numerous wind tunnels capable of that Mach number but that's not all you need to properly simulate the engine. You need something that can achieve the same Mach number, Reynolds number and stagnation enthalpy, and that is hard to come by. Most of the time you have to sacrifice one or more of those and limit the test to parameters not affected by the ones you had to let slide.
 

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