Can all elements, (not including gases) form Ionic Bonds?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether various elements, excluding gases, can form ionic bonds. Participants explore specific examples such as calcium, iron, gold, radium, sodium, and tin, and question the conditions under which bonding occurs, particularly in the context of atomic interactions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the possibility of ionic bonding between specific elements like calcium and iron, gold and radium, and sodium and tin when they encounter each other.
  • Another participant questions the definition of an ionic bond, suggesting a need for clarity on the topic.
  • Concerns are raised about why atoms in proximity, such as those in a hand and those in a wall, do not bond, with a mention of activation barriers and energy considerations in chemical reactions.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in articulating whether an interaction between two different elements would automatically result in bonding or if other factors influence this process.
  • It is noted that the formation of bonds depends on the availability or absence of free energy, indicating that bonding is not guaranteed and is contingent on specific conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the conditions necessary for ionic bonding, and multiple viewpoints regarding the nature of atomic interactions and bonding criteria are present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the definitions and mechanisms of ionic bonding, as well as the role of energy in chemical reactions, without resolving these complexities.

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I've been looking all over the internet, can calcium and iron form an ionic bond, Gold and Radium, Sodium and Tin. If those elements happened to run into each other.

Also, another thing I don't understand is why don't the atoms in my hand bond with atoms on the wall when they come into contact.
 
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Do you know the definition of an ionic bond?
 
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cj20x2 said:
Also, another thing I don't understand is why don't the atoms in my hand bond with atoms on the wall when they come into contact.
Generally speaking, most chemical reactions have activation barriers: there is a minimum energy required for the chemical reaction to take place. There are molecular bonds to break before new ones can form. Also, a reaction may not be favorable because the energy of the products might be higher than the energy of the reactants.
 
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ProfuselyQuarky said:
Do you know the definition of an ionic bond?

I'm having a hard time getting the wording right for what I'm trying to ask. Basically if possible, if you were to take a single instance of an element, and make it interact with a completely different element would it automatically create a bond between the 2 or are there other things that determine if the elements will bond or not.
 
cj20x2 said:
I'm having a hard time getting the wording right for what I'm trying to ask. Basically if possible, if you were to take a single instance of an element, and make it interact with a completely different element would it automatically create a bond between the 2 or are there other things that determine if the elements will bond or not.
No, it depends. That has everything to do with the availability or absence of free energy. See @DrClaude's post. Is that the answer you're looking for?
 

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