Can an Inverted Pendulum Stand on End Indefinitely?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of an inverted pendulum maintaining a vertical position indefinitely. Viktor seeks to calculate the angular displacement of a pendulum with a mass of 1.9 kg and a radius of 0.42 m when initially upright. Kerry clarifies that the equations of motion for an inverted pendulum are analogous to those of a hanging pendulum, emphasizing that the inverted pendulum will fall away from its equilibrium. Theoretical considerations suggest that while an inverted pendulum could stand indefinitely without external disturbances, the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics implies it will eventually fall due to inherent uncertainties.

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Hi!

I'm working on a thing that could be simplified as a pendulum standing straight up. I've found some formulas on how a pendel moves when it's hanging on "the lower 180°" but can't figure out if it's possible to apply them on the other upper half.

So what I'm trying to calculate is how many degrees a straight up standing (small initial angle/not standing stable) is turning/falling in 0.1 seconds. My measurement says it has m=1.9kg and r= 0.42m.

Reguards // Viktor
 
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rotkiv4 said:
Hi!
I've found some formulas on how a pendel moves when it's hanging on "the lower 180°" but can't figure out if it's possible to apply them on the other upper half.

I guess it depends on which equations you're referring to. The equations of motion for an inverted pendulum are very similar to the equations of motion of a hanging pendulum, with the biggest difference being that the inverted pendulum tends to fall away from its equilibrium point, while the hanging pendulum falls towards it.

It's not difficult to derive these equations. Have you tried yet?

-Kerry
 
Theoretically, without vibrations or air motion, there should be an inverted pendulum position that would allow it to stand on end indefinitely. However, if you apply the uncertainty principle, specifically delta-x, delta-p <= h-bar to the pendulum mass, this uncertainty will require the pendulum to fall in a few seconds. I recall a similar problem in Quantum Mechanics class of a pencil standing on end.
 

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