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can anyone explain me about the bigbang singularity
The discussion revolves around the concept of the big bang singularity, exploring its implications for the beginning of time and the nature of the universe's origin. Participants examine theoretical perspectives, definitions of time, and the limitations of current models in understanding this phenomenon.
Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature of time and the implications of the big bang singularity. There is no consensus on the definitions or interpretations of these concepts, and the discussion remains unresolved.
Limitations include the dependence on definitions of time and change, unresolved mathematical steps regarding the big bang, and the lack of a universally accepted theory of quantum gravity.
Crazy Tosser said:All matter was concentrated in a point and then time began?
kev said:If we define time as change, then requiring the universe to change from a state of having no time to a state of having time, requires having time in the first place for the change to happen. If I say something like there was no time before the big bang, it is self contradictory because the word 'before' is a temporal word and requires a concept of time to have any meaning. The same is true for words like ''was', 'then' and 'began'.
Crazy Tosser said:Yes, but Big Bang was the very first change of state. Even though I see your point, that nothing can "begin" if there is no time, but I think it wouldn't be wrong to say that the first process that occurred in the universe - BB - was the beginning of time, because it cannot possibly be proved that time existed before it.
then requiring the universe to change from a state of having no time to a state of having time, requires having time in the first place for the change to happen.
That comment is a bit strange. No theory can imply or refute an idea. What you said is true, but it's true in exactly the same way that it's true that Newton's theory of gravity doesn't imply or refute the idea that stuff will be falling away from massive objects tomorrow.MeJennifer said:To comment on all those "beginning of time" thoughts, GR neither implies or refutes the idea that there is nothing on the other side of the big bang singularity.
Naty1 said:... on the other hand, some theory suggests inside a black hole, space is replaced by time so the black hole singularity is located in time not space!...equally crazy, but possible, I guess...