B Can anyone explain following scenarios in Force-Reaction

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In a vacuum, when a larger mass collides with a smaller mass, both objects will bounce off each other with equal and opposite forces, adhering to the conservation of momentum. If both objects are destructible, the larger object may penetrate the smaller one due to the deformation caused by the impact, which diverts some of the force sideways rather than entirely backward. The discussion emphasizes that it's more accurate to analyze collisions in terms of momentum rather than force, as the forces involved are equal and opposite according to Newton's third law. The change in velocity for the smaller object is significant due to its lower mass, while the larger object's change is minimal. Overall, understanding collisions requires recognizing the complexities of momentum, energy, and the characteristics of the objects involved.
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Velocity2D said:
I understand that kinetic energy is scalar instead of linear, but shouldn't it still amount the same if billions of molecules/atoms are vibrating at very high speed?
It's not the same, because equal but opposite momenta cancel to zero, while kinetic energies from such motion don't.
 
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Velocity2D said:
there must be total amount of "kinetic energy" in form of general vibrations of particles that remains conserved..
No, because it can be converted into some form of potential energy.
 
  • #53
A.T. said:
No, because it can be converted into some form of potential energy.
But in the end, everything in this universe is movement of particles. Particles are never still, so all energy that there is, should be ultimately tied to the vibrations of particles/waves.
 
  • #54
Velocity2D said:
all energy that there is, should be ultimately tied to the vibrations of particles/waves.
No, because potential energy is not tied to movement.
 
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A.T. said:
No, because potential energy is not tied to movement.
But let's go deeper, what is potential energy? Since the very nature of wave-particles is the vibration (nothing is never at rest and there are particles transmitting the "potential energy"), the energy of the whole universe must therefore be kinetic by nature. I think classical mechanics isn't adequate enough to define world, and saying that kinetic energy isn't conserved is flawed view.

Also, forces are made of carrier particles, so when something is "at rest" they are actually communicating with other particles through thise force carriers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_carrier
 
  • #56
Velocity2D said:
saying that kinetic energy isn't conserved is flawed view.
If you redefine "kinetic energy" to mean total energy, then it will be conserved classically.
 
  • #57
Big mass hits small mass ... F = m1 x A1 = m2 x A2 good grief you guys !
 
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