Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the possibility of carbon dioxide (CO2) sublimating into a solid state in Earth's atmosphere. Participants explore the conditions under which this might occur, including temperature and pressure factors, and reference related atmospheric phenomena.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Debate/contested
- Technical explanation
Main Points Raised
- Some participants note that CO2 becomes solid at -78.5 C (-109.3 F) under 1 atmosphere of pressure, questioning if it can freeze out of the atmosphere given Earth's coldest recorded temperature.
- Others argue that the low partial pressure of CO2 in the atmosphere (around 0.0004 atm) raises the freezing point to approximately -137 C, making sublimation unlikely under normal atmospheric conditions.
- A participant mentions that noctilucent clouds, which form at high altitudes, might contain CO2 ice, but this presence would be minor compared to water ice.
- Another participant discusses the concept of deposition as a phase transition from gas to solid, suggesting that sublimation cannot occur without passing through a liquid phase.
- Some participants express skepticism about the feasibility of finding solid CO2 in Antarctica, citing the low atmospheric concentration and pressure conditions.
- One participant humorously suggests that a good salesman could sell dry ice in Antarctica, implying the absurdity of the idea given the scientific context.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the conditions necessary for CO2 to sublimate into a solid. There is no consensus on whether CO2 can freeze out of the atmosphere, with multiple competing viewpoints remaining unresolved.
Contextual Notes
Discussions include references to atmospheric pressure and temperature conditions, as well as the implications of CO2's low concentration in Earth's atmosphere. Some participants also mention the carbonate-silicate cycle and its relevance to the topic.