Can Crafts Reach 2c Relative to Me?

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In summary, if two objects are moving away from each other at a relative speed of less than ##c##, they will separate. However, if the objects are moving away from each other at a relative speed of more than ##c##, they will still separate, but the separation will be slower.
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Simple question for you guys. Thanks in advance for the help.

If you are standing on earth with a watch and hypothetical crafts to your left and right instantly take off 180 degrees apart at the speed of light, at the 1 second mark on YOUR watch they will be 372,000 miles apart. From YOUR perspective, it seems they should be moving apart at 2c. You measure the distance they traveled at its exactly as above. You were stationary and your watch clicked one second. It seems they had to be moving apart at 2c, but that would be the upper limit as to how fast they can move away from each other from your perspective. No laws are being broken as each craft is moving at c, not above it. From each crafts perspective I know it would be totally different. Is this correct or not? If its wrong, please explain how.
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That's correct, the upper limit for separation speed is ##2c##. Note that a massive spacecraft can't actually reach ##c## in your reference frame, but can get arbitrarily close to ##c##.
 
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Much appreciated. Its being argued on a different forum. :smile:
 
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and right instantly take off 180 degrees apart at the speed of light,
That’s not possible, but we can fix this without changing the basic sense of your question by specifying that their speed relative to you is not ##c## but something like ##.99c##.

If one is moving to left at speed ##v\lt c## and the other is moving to the right at the same speed, you will observe them separating at speed ##2v \lt 2c##.

However, their speed relative to one another will be ##2v/(1+v^2)## which is less than ##c##. Google for “relativistic velocity addition” to see how I get that result.

(And note that I am measuring time in seconds and distances in light-seconds so that ##c=1##. This is a handy and very common, almost universal, trick for not cluttering the equations up with a whole bunch of ##c## and ##c^2## factors)
 
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FAQ: Can Crafts Reach 2c Relative to Me?

What does "2c relative to me" mean in the context of crafts?

"2c relative to me" refers to the concept of achieving speeds that are twice the speed of light (2c) relative to an observer. In the context of crafts, it implies the theoretical possibility of a spacecraft traveling at such velocities, which currently contradicts our understanding of physics as dictated by Einstein's theory of relativity.

Is it possible for any craft to reach 2c?

No, according to our current understanding of physics, it is not possible for any object with mass to reach or exceed the speed of light (c). As an object's speed approaches the speed of light, its mass effectively becomes infinite, requiring infinite energy to continue accelerating.

What are the theoretical concepts that might allow faster-than-light travel?

Theoretical concepts such as warp drives and wormholes have been proposed as potential methods for faster-than-light travel. A warp drive would involve bending or "warping" space-time around a craft, allowing it to move faster than light without violating the laws of physics. However, these concepts remain speculative and face significant scientific challenges.

What are the implications of achieving speeds like 2c for space travel?

If it were possible to achieve speeds like 2c, the implications for space travel would be profound. It could potentially allow for interstellar travel within human lifetimes, drastically reducing travel time to distant stars. However, such speeds would also raise questions about the effects of time dilation and the energy requirements involved.

What advancements in technology would be needed to approach such speeds?

To approach speeds near the speed of light, significant advancements in propulsion technology would be necessary. This could include breakthroughs in energy generation, materials science, and a deeper understanding of physics. Technologies like antimatter propulsion or fusion drives are often discussed as potential avenues for achieving high speeds, but they remain largely theoretical at this stage.

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