Can Event A Cause Event B in Relativity?

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The discussion revolves around the conceptual relationship between two events in the context of relativity, specifically whether one event can causally influence another. Participants are exploring the implications of the speed of light as a limiting factor in causation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants are examining the timing and spatial separation of events to determine if causation is possible. Questions arise regarding the implications of information transfer speed and the concept of light cones. Some participants express uncertainty about their reasoning and seek further clarification.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the events, with some participants questioning their own reasoning and seeking further insights. Guidance has been offered regarding the concept of light cones and the necessity for information to travel at or below the speed of light for causation to be valid.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of their calculations and the definitions of causation in the context of relativity. There is a noted confusion regarding the interpretation of distances and times associated with the events.

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no equations needed b/c its a conceptual question.

The Attempt at a Solution


my attempts..

A) the earliest it can occur and can only be connected by speed of light there t2= 1200/3*108=4*10-6..

B) yes it can because event(E0) occurred 1micro sec before event E1, there E0 could trigger event E1

I'm partly sure I'm correct but i need someone to verify..

thanks in advance!
 
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Your reasoning and answer to part A is correct, but it's not consistent with your answer to B. Can you see why? It's not enough that one event occur before another for them to be causally related.
 
what you say is true, but I am not sure how to explain if it is or not.. any other hits you can throw at me?
 
Think "light cone."
 
light cone ummm... heard of it but not sure could you expand on it.. is it like without the past there is no present ...something like that?
 
really having a hard time with this :/
 
if event 0 happened (-4000m, -1μs) away from event 1, how fast must information between these events have traveled for event 0 to cause event 1? Is this possible?
 
well if its -4000m away and the fastest it can get to event 1 is like...-4000m/3*108 m/s=-1.33...*10-5= so... event 0 occurred at t=-1μs and the information would take -1.33...*10-5 sec to get to event 1.. so event one would see as if it occurred at -1μs + -1.33...*10-5=-12.3μs..

edit: not getting the concept somewhere...
 
A) if we do -4000/-1μs= 4*10^9 m/s.. which does not make any sence...

B) I am confused on the part now...(-4000m,-1μs)... they refer to the part at the instance explosion took place.so.. doing part A would not make any sense ..
 
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Your calculation in part A) is correct.

For A to cause B some kind of information must be send from A to B.

A-------->------------------------B

Like you calculated, if the information has 1μs to traverse 4000m, it has to move at 4*10^9 m/s.
Which is faster then light. Is it possible for information to move this quickly? If not, what does that mean for the causal relation between A and B?
 

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