Can Heat Waves Be Polarized and Controlled in Direction?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the concept of whether heat waves can be polarized and directed, examining the nature of heat as molecular vibration and its relationship to electromagnetic radiation, particularly infrared. The scope includes theoretical considerations and speculative applications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that heat, caused by molecular vibration, could potentially be given a directional characteristic similar to polarized light, proposing the term "polarized heat."
  • Another participant notes that while heat in a heated object is due to atomic motion, the radiated heat is primarily infrared radiation, which can be polarized.
  • A participant mentions that if heat transport is modeled with phonons, these phonons possess a polarization state.
  • Concerns are raised about phonons scattering quickly and distributing energy in all directions, suggesting that this would limit the feasibility of directional heat.
  • One participant argues that heat itself does not have temperature, and that polarized radiation cannot be created with a defined temperature in a blackbody scenario.
  • Another participant speculates that if heat could be polarized, it might lead to temperature variations in different directions, potentially allowing for a theoretical engine with 100% efficiency.
  • A later reply counters that achieving a perfect heat dump at absolute zero is not possible in our universe, which would impact the feasibility of such an engine.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no consensus reached on the feasibility of polarizing heat or the implications of such a concept. Disagreements exist regarding the nature of heat, the behavior of phonons, and the possibility of creating a perfectly efficient engine.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about the behavior of phonons, the definition of temperature in relation to polarized radiation, and the theoretical nature of the proposed engine's efficiency.

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we know that heat is caused by vibration of molecules. the vibration by nature of molecules is random. but in as in polarized light can we give heat that is vibration a particular direction. then this vibration i call polarized heat has varying temp at various angles. can this be actually made true.
 
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interestings question...
Am not an expert in this area but I suspect there are 2 parts to this question

1) in an object say a chunk of heated iron, the heat is being generated by the motion/vibration of atoms/molecules ( small scale/large scale)

2) but the radiated heat we feel is primarily infrared radiation, which is electromagnetic in nature and that can be polarised

lets see how the more knowledgeable answer this :)

Dave
 
If you model heat transport with phonons, then yes- phonons have a polarization state.
 
I would expect that those phonons scatter quickly and distribute the energy in all directions. The timescale would be similar to the damping of sound in solids (many similar phonons), so probably <1s unless some specific setups can increase it (?).
 
Heat itself doesn't have temperature.
As far as electromagnetic radiation is concerned, only isotropic blackbody radiation has a well defined temperature. You may put a polarizer in an oven, but it won't change the polarization or temperature of the blackbody radiation once it has the same temperature as the oven. So the answer is negative, you can't create polarized radiation with a well defined temperature.
 
if heat can be polarized then i believe the temperature of space occupying polarized heat will be different in different direction for every point in it. so using this concept we possibly create a engine at least in theory which will be 100% efficient.
 
This would still need a perfect heat dump at 0 temperature, which does not exist in our universe.
 

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