Can High-Speed Travel Really Allow Objects to Pass Through Walls?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of high-speed travel potentially allowing objects to pass through walls without collision. Participants explore various interpretations of this idea, including references to science fiction, quantum mechanics, and relativistic physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant recalls a Discovery Channel series suggesting that high-speed travel could allow objects to become "invisible" and pass through walls, questioning whether this is a myth or a truth.
  • Another participant proposes that objects might "phase" through each other if they have the right vibrational frequency and atomic distribution, although this is presented as a theoretical possibility over an extremely long timescale.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that high-speed collisions would result in significant destruction, referencing the behavior of meteors colliding with air molecules.
  • One participant mentions a movie involving a car that could drive through mountains, linking it to the discussion of UFOs and high-speed travel.
  • Quantum tunneling is introduced as a phenomenon where particles can pass through barriers, but it is clarified that this does not apply to macroscopic objects and is not related to faster-than-light travel.
  • There is a discussion about neutrinos, which are noted for their ability to pass through matter, with a clarification that they do not require a specific speed to do so.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of high-speed travel allowing objects to pass through walls. While some explore theoretical possibilities, others firmly reject the idea of faster-than-light travel and emphasize the destructive nature of high-speed collisions. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made regarding the nature of speed, the definitions of "invisibility," and the applicability of quantum tunneling to larger objects. The discussion also reflects a mix of scientific concepts and speculative ideas without consensus on their validity.

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I saw in a series on discovery channel that sometimes, when something travels too fast, it can go through walls like it is invisible. But my physics teacher told me that that is rediculous, that he has never heard of it. I am really sure that I heard that b/c they even showed a video of a ufo doing it.(virtual) Is it just a myth, a theory, or a truth?
 
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I'm not quite sure in what manner you mean 'invisible'. It is possible that something with the right vibrational frequency and atomic distribution could 'phase' through another solid object. In fact, if you leave two objects in contact for several times the lifespan of the universe, it could, theoretically, occur spontaneously.
On the other hand, if you mean penetration of one object by sheer force, it happens all the time. Bullets, for example, or the proverbial straw in a hurricane.
 
I mean that an object w/ tremendoes speed(probably faster than light) goes through another object without doing anything to it, but everytime, not once colliding.
 
Lose the idea about 'faster than light'. Ain't going to happen.
If a collision happened with one or both of the objects moving at relativistic speed, there would be one horrendous explosion due to the heat of compression and friction. You can see what happens to a meteor, which is not at anywhere near the kind of speed you're implying, when it collides with some itty-bitty air molecules.
 
If you are a science student danger, I am sure you know what is the meaning of "assume".
 
What was that movie where the car could drive through mountains? Dang, the name escapes me at the moment. It kind of looked like a UFO, or maybe more like a DeLorean (no not Back To The Future). Seemed pretty well based in science.
 
You might be talking about quantum tunneling. Note that quantum tunneling has nothing to do with faster-than-light travel (which cannot happen), nor even high-velocity travel. Note also that it does not apply to macroscopic objects like cars or UFOs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunneling

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superweirdo said:
If you are a science student danger, I am sure you know what is the meaning of "assume".
Now who's assuming? I haven't been a student in over 30 years. :-p
 
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what you guys are telling me has nothing to do w/ speed, I guess my ears really were just banging. or wait, do you have to get those neutrinos at a certain speed to be able to cross the mountains?
 
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You don't get neutrinos to a particular speed; they're already there. Up until a couple of decades ago, in fact, they were thought to be massless and thus traveling at light-speed. It turns out that they actually have a rest mass of a couple of eV, so their speed is slightly lower.
 

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