Can I use a new SSD Hard Disk to store data without formatting?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of a new SSD (Solid State Drive) for storing data, specifically ebooks and audio files, without formatting it first. Participants explore the implications of using SSDs versus HDDs (Hard Disk Drives) for this purpose, including considerations of formatting, longevity, and performance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether a new SSD needs to be formatted before use, suggesting that pre-formatted external SSDs may be ready to use immediately.
  • Others argue that internal SSDs are typically not pre-formatted, and formatting may be necessary depending on the intended operating system.
  • One participant mentions that SSDs are designed for rapid access and may not be the best choice for storing ebooks, which could be adequately stored on slower HDDs.
  • Concerns are raised about the longevity of SSDs compared to HDDs, with some participants suggesting that SSDs can be more reliable for long-term storage if used correctly.
  • Some participants discuss the importance of leaving spare space on SSDs to prolong their lifespan and mention that modern SSDs often include built-in mechanisms to manage wear leveling.
  • There are suggestions that using SSDs solely for storage may not fully utilize their capabilities, and alternatives like flash drives or cloud storage are proposed.
  • A participant shares a link to an article discussing the reserved space on SSDs for wear leveling, indicating that some drives manage data distribution to extend their lifespan.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether formatting is necessary for new SSDs, with some asserting that external SSDs may come pre-formatted while others remain skeptical. There is no consensus on the best storage solution for ebooks, as opinions vary on the appropriateness of SSDs versus HDDs.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors affecting SSD longevity, including write limitations and the importance of managing data effectively. The discussion includes references to specific brands and technical details about SSD functionality, but no definitive conclusions are reached regarding the necessity of formatting or the best storage practices.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals considering the purchase of an SSD for data storage, particularly those interested in the technical aspects of SSD formatting, longevity, and performance compared to traditional HDDs.

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Can I use a brand new removed SSD HardDisk to store data without doing any thing at the beginning time(e.g without formating or other things)?I will use SSD to store ebooks(PDF,Djvu,epub,Audio files).
Can I open books when I attach the removed SSD to laptop?
 
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Can I use a brand new removed SSD HardDisk to store data without doing any thing at the beginning time(e.g without formating or other things)?I will use SSD to store ebooks(PDF,Djvu,epub,Audio files).
Can I open books when I attach the removed SSD to laptop?
Brand new removed from what?

If it's already formatted with a to-you-acceptable structure, then have at it, but if its not formatted the way you want it to be, you will have to format it first. I would recommend that you connect it and examine its format and content. Please note that SSD IO isn't quite the same as HDD IO. If you're using windows, you can issue diskmgmt.exe from a command prompt. Various tutorials are available.

SSD is typically used for purposes wherein rapid access is especially important. E-books and such can generally be kept on less expensive slower HDD media because ordinary speeds will more than match the speed at which you can read text or listen to music. or watch and listen to AV files.

I have several SSDs, each of which I use for an OS and a set of program products. I try to keep SSD writes to a minimum, due to the fact that their longevity for repeated writes is much less than is that of HDDs. I try to keep enough RAM to keep paging to a minimum. If I'm doing IO intensive applications, I try to do as much in RAM as possible, and write only end results.

If you provide some more information about your situation, you may get some some more specific responses.
 
I will buy a new SSD from manufacture to store ebooks, because it exists for a long time compare with HHD.I do not know whether I need format it before using?I only store not erase them.
 
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I will buy a new SSD from manufacture to store ebooks, because it exists for a long time compare with HHD.I do not know whether I need format it before using?
In general SSDs packaged and interfaced external use are pre-formatted, and SSDs set up for internal use are not. The drives themselves are usually not significantly different on the inside, although there may be different buffers, buses, and connectors. The SSD manufacturer doesn't know what OS you plan to use you internal SSD with, and typically doesn't assume that you don't want it for use as a boot device. Formatting your new SSD is not hard to do, and full instructions and tech support options will come with a new drive.

Longevity of data for SSDs and HDDs is generally comparable; however, the vulnerabilites are different. For example, SSDs are less susceptible to shock, but cannot be reliably re-written as many times. For data that must be long-term archived, non-rewriteable media should be considered. I have M-Disc for posterity-level archiving, and in the mainframe world, backup to tape cartridges (which are rewriteable) is still in extensive use.
 
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If you get SSDs that are large enough to leave 10% or 20% of spare space, then you can do a lot of re-writes before there is a problem with the SSD. In your usage case of long-term storage of ebooks, I don't think that the re-write limitations would ever be a problem. See this youtube video on the subject of SSD life expectancy.
 
So when I buy external using SSD from manufacturer,I can instantly use it without formating(I use Window 7 for my laptop)?
 
fxdung said:
So when I buy external using SSD from manufacturer,I can instantly use it without formating(I use Window 7 for my laptop)?
I doubt it. Why would a manufacturer pre-format a drive when (1) they have no idea whether you are going to use it with an Apple computer or a Windows computer and (2) formatting a drive is trivially easy

EDIT: OOPS ... I see you are talking about an external drive. Those, I think, DO come pre-formatted as sysprog said
 
If your laptop has USB, there are plenty of USB SSDs that you can just plug in and start using.
Like https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-extreme-500gb-external-usb-3-1-gen-2-type-a-type-c-portable-solid-state-drive/6185370.p?skuId=6185370&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=355&ref=212&loc=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA3abwBRBqEiwAKwICAzJHbQkxLTV72BLmRI_EzYGLXz0YZlb6CwDfhrxFIyQEtFSBlN6q0RoCyb0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
 
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If you get SSDs that are large enough to leave 10% or 20% of spare space, then you can do a lot of re-writes before there is a problem with the SSD. In your usage case of long-term storage of ebooks, I don't think that the re-write limitations would ever be a problem. See this youtube video on the subject of SSD life expectancy.
I agree with you. In fact one can find ssd's that have a ten years warranty. You won't find a mechanical hard drive with such a warranty. Furthermore nowadays the ssd's already have the free space to extend their lifetime, hidden from the user, so that there's no need to keep a blank partition or so.
So even if the firmware of the ssd provides a hardcoded maximum number of writes per cell just to ensure data stays uncorrupted, the ssd should in average outlive a mechanical hard drive. It's not because it hasn't a maximum number of disk-spins hardcoded that it hasn't any limit.
 
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Quick format takes seconds to complete, why are you so against formating the drive you buy?

Also to use an SSD just for "storage" is a bit of a waste, it's really designed for fast access speeds. Your better off using a regular spinny disk and just copy the data to two locations. Anything you really don't want to lose shoudl be kept in two locations or backed up.

Another alternative is sign up for a free accuont with Microsoft OneDrive / Google Drive which give you a small amount of free online storage.
 
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For e-books and commercial audio you can just use a decent quality flash thumbdrive : much cheaper.
 
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Furthermore nowadays the ssd's already have the free space to extend their lifetime, hidden from the user, so that there's no need to keep a blank partition or so.
That's interesting. Can you elaborate or link to an article?
 
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Some drives can use online wear leveling where they move more static data to areas with higher write counts. This allows you to fill most of the drive with mostly static data then have write load spread over the entire storage area.

BoB
 
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