Can I use a terrarium as an aquarium?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using a glass terrarium as an aquarium, specifically when filled with water and oil. Participants explore concerns regarding the structural integrity, adhesive properties, and suitability of the terrarium for long-term use in this capacity.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to use a terrarium for an aquarium project, questioning its reliability for long-term use with water and oil.
  • Another participant suggests that if the terrarium was previously used in an aquarium, it might be fine, but emphasizes the need for disinfection and checking requirements.
  • Concerns are raised about the oil potentially damaging the adhesive used in the terrarium's construction.
  • Some participants propose testing the adhesive with a small amount of oil to assess compatibility.
  • There is a discussion about the thickness of the glass, with one participant noting that terrariums typically use thinner glass than aquariums, which could affect structural integrity under pressure.
  • Another participant mentions that silicone glue is generally acceptable for both water and oil applications.
  • One participant highlights the importance of checking the glass thickness, suggesting that a thickness of 3 mm may not be sufficient for the pressure exerted by water or oil.
  • There is a calculation presented regarding the static pressure at the base of the glass, indicating that the glass thickness may be inadequate for the intended use.
  • Participants discuss the potential for reinforcement if visibility through the sides is not necessary, referencing duct tape humorously.
  • A side conversation emerges about the nature of glass as a liquid, with differing opinions on the validity of this idea.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the suitability of the terrarium for use as an aquarium, with no consensus reached regarding its structural integrity or the effects of oil on the adhesive. Concerns about glass thickness and pressure are debated without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the glass thickness and adhesive properties are critical factors, but there is uncertainty regarding the specific requirements for an aquarium compared to a terrarium. The discussion includes references to calculations and material properties that remain unresolved.

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I have a glass terrarium, and I have a project where I need an aquarium. I'm going to be filling it full with water and oil. Can I reliably use my terrarium for this application? It will need to last months to years and I kind of don't want it to leak or break everywhere :)
 
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Mk said:
I have a glass terrarium, and I have a project where I need an aquarium. I'm going to be filling it full with water and oil. Can I reliably use my terrarium for this application? It will need to last months to years and I kind of don't want it to leak or break everywhere :)
If your terrarium was in an aquarium, it should be fine. Be sure to disinfect it first and be sure that it meets the requirements for an aquarium.

OIL?
 
The oil part has me uncertain. I don't know what holds aquariums together either, so am not sure oil won't damage the adhesive.
 
Check if its waterproof, duh, LOL, but I think the adhesive should be fine cause I think its basically silicone caulking. Might try a test with a bit of the oil that will be used on one of the upper corners in the terra/aquarium.
 
The terrarium was not an aquarium! That's why I'm asking. The sealant/glue is silicone, so I was wondering if there needs to be more, or something if you have an aquarium? Plus, oil is heavier than water. I'll fill it with water tomorrow to see if it leaks.
 
The problem MK, might be the glass thickness, must be sufficient to withstand the pressure of the liquid. The glass of a terrarium may only be 3 mm. A small aquarium is at least 5mm for a foot of water level (30cm) and more like 8-12mm for 18-24 inches of water level.

So check the glass thickness and the glue of course being water thight.

Silicone glue is fine also for oil
 
Andre's right. If this thing has long/wide spans and is made of thin glass, then you do not want to load it with water/oil unless you are prepared to deal with the mess when it breaks. If it was originally designed as a terrarium, it will not have the structural integrity of a real aquarium.
 
My experience is that terrariums use thinner glass (but not necessarily) that aquariums, since terrariums are not designed to be filled with water, but only to keep a controlled moist atmosphere/environment.

Is one using mineral oil?

Oil is less dense than water.
 
Astronuc said:
Is one using mineral oil?
Yes!

Oil is less dense than water.
Yes!

I measured the thickness of the glass at 1/8 inch. The box is about one foot wide and two feet long.

According to this, I'm okay:
http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/literature/Subramanian_Glass_Aquarium.html
2 x 1 x 1 = 5mm glass
 
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How deep is the glass? The use \rho\,g\,h to determine the static pressure at the base of the glass.

I think aquariums use at least 6 mm or 1/4 inch, so 1/8 might be risking failure, even will slightly less dense oil (s.g. ~ 0.8-0.85)
 
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Mk said:
I measured the thickness of the glass at 1/8 inch. It's about one foot wide and two feet long. How's that?

Sounds a little thin based on Andre's recommendations.
 
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If you don't have to see through the sides, you can just reinforce it with the Handyman's Secret Weapon. :approve:
 
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Danger said:
If you don't have to see through the sides, you can just reinforce it with the Handyman's Secret Weapon. :approve:

I knew that was a duct tape reference before even hitting Google to make sure. Good replacement for Jesus.
 
  • #14
Red Green is a genius in his own warped way. :biggrin:

And if you haven't seen his other stuff, Steve and Morag were one of the best comedy teams going. See if you can find any Smith & Smith footage.
 
  • #15
I love the fact/idea that glass is a liquid and that it is slowly flowing downwards.
 
  • #16
I always loved that, too, but a recent programme that I saw disputed it with reasonable scientific principles. Since I don't know enough about it, the jury remains out for me.
 

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