Can Perpetual Motion Transform Our Future?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of perpetual motion and its potential implications for future technology and energy production. Participants explore various ideas related to the feasibility of creating perpetual motion machines, the laws of physics, and the extraction of energy from such devices. The conversation includes both theoretical and practical considerations, as well as humorous exchanges among participants.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the possibility of achieving perpetual motion, suggesting it contradicts the laws of physics.
  • There are claims that perpetual motion could revolutionize industries and reduce pollution, though these ideas are met with skepticism.
  • One participant proposes that instead of breaking the laws of physics, one should find ways to work within them to harness energy.
  • Discussions include the idea of extracting free energy from perpetual motion machines, with some arguing that it cannot be done.
  • Participants debate the relationship between perpetual motion and harmonic oscillation, with some confusion about the definitions involved.
  • There are humorous exchanges and personal remarks, with some participants questioning the knowledge and maturity of others in the discussion.
  • One participant suggests that they have a future invention called "VEROSTAR" that would not require refueling, although this claim is met with skepticism.
  • Several participants challenge each other's understanding of basic physics concepts, particularly regarding energy conservation and magnetism.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views on the feasibility of perpetual motion and the extraction of energy from it. There is no consensus on whether such machines can be created or if they would violate the laws of physics.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding of physics concepts, leading to confusion and misinterpretations. The discussion reflects a mix of serious inquiry and lighthearted banter, with some participants appearing to lack foundational knowledge in the subject matter.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals curious about the concept of perpetual motion, energy production, and the interplay between theoretical physics and practical applications. It may also appeal to those interested in the dynamics of online discussions and community interactions around scientific topics.

  • #31
Yeah, right, kid.

- Warren
 
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  • #32
in the mean time all study hard in Kinematics and Dynamics and a little Chemistry lol.
 
  • #33
Hey i am not a kid i DESERVE the word teen. :) yet adult ;)
 
  • #34
Judging by this thread, you need more electrodynamics.

- Warren
 
  • #35
Shock Therapy ?
 
  • #36
looking up electrodynamics...

Hey i am not a Lemon!
 
  • #37
well maybe a Lemon Head but not a Battery Lemon ;)
 
  • #38
Theory Development ?
what does it mean ?
 
  • #39
blah blah...blah...blah.blah...blah...

Gimme A Equation PLEASE i won't use a calculator ;)!
 
  • #40
how big is E=Mc2 Formula ?
 
  • #41
Electrodynamics is the study of electric and magnetic fields, in which the charges may be moving. (As opposed to electrostatics and magnetostatics, in which the charges are fixed.)

Based on what you've written here, you have a number of ideas about magnets that are incorrect.

The "Theory Development" forum is place where people can develop their own personal theories. We have a number of people on this forum who really don't know any science, yet feel they are superior to us all and want to tell us how mainstream science (which they don't really understand) is wrong. We put those people here.

You are using this thread, in particular, to argue several basic pieces of physical understanding: the conservation of energy, and the way magnets really work. Your discussion of these arguments belongs here, in theory development.

- Warren
 
  • #42
Hey i am kid trying to make a better future for all of us,kinda got the calvin personality but i aint making theories of something that has a foundation on,yet mine.

your right,i am wrong,and there's notthing i can do i about it. :(

anyways its Funny and Hillarious of what i try to speak, its like trying to talk to my taco bell dog but sometimes it a see to believe theory more than anything else.

i believe that i did not accomplished perpetual motion its (LIES LIES)
ofcourse there's the other side of the story. :)

anyways its like talking Giberish...

100 years ago they thought no one can make it to the moon and look at it now there's Multi-Billion dollar projects going on right now as we speak...

realitively right now no, no one has accomplished perpetual motion BUT THE PURSUE continues.

just remember this name write it down somewhere!

VEROSTAR

and youl be suprised!
I totally GURANTEE IT!

well i better call it a night my brains starting to gimme the snoozy brain waves...alpha...beta.....theta....OMG I AM RICH!

ROLFMAO!

LATER...
 
  • #43
A "gaurantee" means that if your goal is not accomplished, you'd give me something. If you are proposing that you'll give me 750 M$ if you do not successfully invent free energy, then I might take more interest in your "work."

As it stands, you're nothing more than a blue-sky dreamer. Spend a little less time dreaming, and a little more time learning. You'll be the better for it.

- Warren
 
  • #44
Joke (Will you take Cash or Check ?)
 
  • #45
Originally posted by Jimmy
I'm speaking in regards to the extraction of free energy by using so called perpetual motion machines. Sure, you can say we are all in perpetual motion but that's not really what we are talking about, is it? Were talking about free energy. So I should have made my question more precise. How can one make a perptual motion machine and extract free energy from it. I say it can't be done. No such thing as energy out of nothing.
The quest for such a perpetuum mobile is actually quest for constant difference. The work done that you want to get for free should be made proportional with some other difference that remains the same all the time. The work done is difference in energy.

I have one concept of mine HERE
I won't say why it won't work but yet it doesn't.

This Generic guy is my favorite.
LOL.
What's your diagnoses Generic.
I have Psyhosis.
LOL.
 
  • #46
you should make a 3d model of it :).

then it will be easier to understand...
 
  • #47
I don't think I've ever seen a thread with such a low content:post count ratio. I've searched and searched, but I just can't seem to find a point.
 
  • #48
is an electron in orbit perpetual motion??
what about a photon will it travel forever unless it hits something
 
  • #49
Originally posted by ray b
is an electron in orbit perpetual motion??
what about a photon will it travel forever unless it hits something
Perpetual motion implies a self-powering process, not just physical motion. Newton's first law is not perpetual motion.
 
  • #50
"Newton's first law is not perpetual motion."

i know its not what makes perpetual motion but it is what is stopping the entire idea!

Friction is stops movement...
 

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