Can quantum physics explain the workings of transmitters and receivers?

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The discussion revolves around the workings of transmitters and receivers, with a focus on both classical and quantum physics perspectives. Participants explore how these devices function at both macroscopic and microscopic levels, inquire about historical developments, and seek resources for further reading.

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  • Several participants inquire about the construction and functioning of transmitters and receivers, seeking detailed explanations.
  • Heinrich Hertz is noted as a key historical figure in the development of transmission technology, with references to his work and publications.
  • Some participants suggest that basic research can be conducted using online resources, encouraging the original poster (OP) to refine their questions.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about applying quantum physics to the understanding of radio technology, arguing that radio is fundamentally a classical phenomenon.
  • There is mention of quantum phenomena related to RF radiation, but it is noted that these are not typically utilized in transmission and reception processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the historical context of transmitter and receiver technology, but there is disagreement regarding the relevance of quantum physics to the discussion, with some asserting that it does not apply to radio technology.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the OP's questions, particularly the distinction between classical and quantum explanations. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and interest in the historical versus modern aspects of the technology.

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Hello :)
So my question are:
-how to build a transmitter and a receiver?
-how do they actually work?(in detail,microscopic and macroscopic)
-which scientist was the one who invented this tech and if possible,are there any papers published that can be red today?
Thank you for your time.
 
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ghost313 said:
Hello :)
So my question are:
-how to build a transmitter and a receiver?
-how do they actually work?(in detail,microscopic and macroscopic)
-which scientist was the one who invented this tech and if possible,are there any papers published that can be red today?
Thank you for your time.
Heinrich Hertz first did this using a spark gap at the centre of a dipole antenna. He used a very small spark gap in a tuned loop as his receiver. A book is available "Researches on the Propagation of Electric Action with Finite Velocity through Space", by Heinrich Hertz (Cornell University reprint). Of course, techniques quickly evolved for the next 122 years, so you can choose. Maybe you can use a signal generator and a diode detector with an oscilloscope.
 
tech99 said:
Heinrich Hertz first did this using a spark gap at the centre of a dipole antenna. He used a very small spark gap in a tuned loop as his receiver. A book is available "Researches on the Propagation of Electric Action with Finite Velocity through Space", by Heinrich Hertz (Cornell University reprint). Of course, techniques quickly evolved for the next 122 years, so you can choose. Maybe you can use a signal generator and a diode detector with an oscilloscope.
(Professor John Hughes demonstrated reception using a mobile receiver in London in 1879, but it was rejected by members of the Royal Society because at that time they thought it was induction rather than radiation).
 
ghost313 said:
Hello :)
So my question are:
-how to build a transmitter and a receiver?
-how do they actually work?(in detail,microscopic and macroscopic)
-which scientist was the one who invented this tech and if possible,are there any papers published that can be red today?
Thank you for your time.
google is your friend for basic questions like that

do some searching, there's masses of info, come back with more specific questions on things you may not understand

we at PF will help you along, but we won't do your research study for you
you need to learn to make an effort for a startcheers
Dave
 
All I can say is that I hope the OP is talking about radio.
 
davenn said:
google is your friend for basic questions like that

do some searching, there's masses of info, come back with more specific questions on things you may not understand

we at PF will help you along, but we won't do your research study for you
you need to learn to make an effort for a startcheers
Dave
I guess I did not put my questions rigth,when I said microscopic level I meant from the point of quantum physics,how does it really work,not some science 200 years agoo..hahah there is that...also for the scientist I meant for the new one who discovered it from the microscopic world,there is not much on the internet about that. Thanks :)
 
tech99 said:
(Professor John Hughes demonstrated reception using a mobile receiver in London in 1879, but it was rejected by members of the Royal Society because at that time they thought it was induction rather than radiation).
Thank you,answered most of my questions,helpful :)
 
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ghost313 said:
I meant from the point of quantum physics,how does it really work,not some science 200 years ago
Radio is classical. I don't think that it makes sense to think about it on a quantum level. It would be like trying to understand an inclined plane using general relativity.

There are some quantum phenomena that cause RF radiation, but those are not used for transmission and reception.
 

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