Can someone check this for me please?

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The discussion centers on the solubility and dissociation of silver sulfate in water, with participants calculating the Ksp value and discussing electrochemical cells. The dissolving equation for silver sulfate is provided, along with the Ksp expression, which is confirmed to be correct. Participants also explore the separation of ions in a solution and the half-reactions involved in an electrochemical cell with nickel and silver electrodes. Additionally, there is a focus on calculating the hydronium ion concentration from acetic acid's dissociation, with discussions on molarity and equilibrium expressions. The conversation reflects a collaborative effort to solve chemistry problems and clarify concepts.
  • #31
yoshi6 said:
okay is this one right?
2Ag + 2e- -> 2Ag0

isnt the cathode reaction: Ag+ + e- -> Ag
and the anode reaction: Ag-> Ag+ + e-

Is that significant at all?
correct and yes b/c it tells you what role they're playing, but you're able to recognize them so it's all good.

anyways

so we have

Ag^+ (aq) + e^- \rightarrow Ag (s) \ E^0 = +0.80

Ni^{2+} (aq) + 2e^- \rightarrow Ni (s) \ E^0 = -0.28

which becomes

2Ag^+ (aq) + 2e^- \rightarrow 2Ag (s) \ E^0 = +0.80

DO NOT! multiply your charge by 2, Electrical potential is an intensive property just like density.

Ni^{2+} (aq) + 2e^- \rightarrow Ni (s) \ E^0 = -0.28

choosing Nickel to be our anode, we flip it's half-reaction

2Ag^+ (aq) + 2e^- \rightarrow Ag (s) \ E^0 = +0.80

Ni (s) \rightarrow Ni^{2+} (aq) + 2e^- \ E^0 = -0.28

notice how i didn't flip it's charge? there are two methods in dealing with whether you change your sign or not.

if you're using the equation E_{cell}=E_{cathode}-E_{anode} keep your charges the same, if you're just going to add it all up without the equation, flip your charge with respects to the half-reaction you have chosen to be your anode.

so how would you write your overall reaction? (just add them up and cancel the electrons) and what is the EMF?
 
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  • #32
okay, i see...

Ag+(aq) + 2e- -> Ag(s) E0 +0.80V
Ni(s) -> NI2+(aq) + 2e- E0 -0.28V
_______________________________________

2Ag + Ni -> Ag + Ni2+ E0 0.52V
 
  • #33
Like so?
 
  • #34
yoshi6 said:
okay, i see...

Ag+(aq) + 2e- -> Ag(s) E0 +0.80V
Ni(s) -> NI2+(aq) + 2e- E0 -0.28V
_______________________________________

2Ag + Ni -> Ag + Ni2+ E0 0.52V
no, check your work again.

show me how you plugged your E0 into your equation or if you just flipped it.
 
  • #35
did i add them wrong?
 
  • #36
yoshi6 said:
did i add them wrong?
yep

show me your work if you were to do it with the equation
 
  • #37
Ecell = E cathode - E anode
= .80 - (-0.28)
=1.08 ?
 
  • #38
yoshi6 said:
Ecell = E cathode - E anode
= .80 - (-0.28)
=1.08 ?
correct

and if you just flip the equation and choose not to use the equation, you would've added and resulting in the same answer = +1.08
 
  • #39
okay, awesome...I think I have some studying to do before first year starts...
 
  • #40
yoshi6 said:
okay, awesome...I think I have some studying to do before first year starts...
alright, good luck! have fun
 
  • #41
yoshi6 said:
okay, awesome...I think I have some studying to do before first year starts...

chemistry
I also need to do some chemistry :cry:; I have been planning to do it since last two months.
What are you going into, and if you don't mind, where?

If you are planning to really do it; then, you may try
http://www2.ucdsb.on.ca/tiss/stretton/CHEM2/organicx.htm

It has notes for all grade 12 topics/units!
 
  • #42
Actually I only have to do it in first year. I am majoring in wildlife biology at the university of guelph.
 
  • #43
yoshi6 said:
Actually I only have to do it in first year. I am majoring in wildlife biology at the university of guelph.
wow! beautiful campus ...
 
  • #44
you've been? Lol don't you live in texas?
 
  • #45
yoshi6 said:
you've been? Lol don't you live in texas?
i can be anywhere anytime ... <google> :biggrin:

it's nice tho, how's the weather? lol, it's way too hot down here.
 
  • #46
ah isee...it is a really nice campus...well, I seem to think it is really hot right now, it's about 31 celcius, what about over there?
 
  • #47
okay I have one last question that I am having trouble with. I am almost done my assignment. This is the last one...I have some examples in my book I am trying to follow, however, this is a little different.

If the Ka= 1.8 x 10^-5 for acetic acid (i.e . CH3COOH), what is the H+ ion concentration in a solution of this acid, if 1.2 grams of acid are dissolved in 1.0 L of solution.

So I assume I have to do this:

Ka= [H+][A-]/ [HA] ? and from there...
 
  • #48
so you have 1.2 grams of acetic acid, and you're told it's dissolved in 1.0L sol'n, what would your next step be?

your Ka expression is correct, question tho, is H+ and H3O+ the same?

by analyzing the Ka, what would you estimate the pH to be?
 
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  • #49
yes it is, isn't it?
 
  • #50
yoshi6 said:
yes it is, isn't it?
yes, what would you estimate your pH to be?

CH_3COOH (aq) + H_2O (l) \leftrightarrow H_3O^+ (aq) + CH_3COO^- (aq)

what values you would input in your EQUIL for your ICE table?
 
  • #51
okay

Ka = 1.8 x 10^-5= (9.0 x 10^-3)^2
_____________
[CH3COOH]

At = , [CH3COO-] = [H3O+] = 9.0x10-3mol/L

I think...
 
  • #52
okay that is supposed to be (9.0 x 10^-3)^2 divided by [CH3COOH]
 
  • #53
yoshi6 said:
okay

Ka = 1.8 x 10^-5= (9.0 x 10^-3)^2
_____________
[CH3COOH]

At = , [CH3COO-] = [H3O+] = 9.0x10-3mol/L

I think...
where did you get 9.0 x 10^-3?
 
  • #54
wrong? I don't know I'm very confused, I am trying to follow the examples in my book, but I don't really understand what it going on...
 
  • #55
K_a=\frac{[H_3O^+][CH_3COO^-]}{CH_3COOH}

1.8\times10^{-5}=\frac{x^2}{\frac{[1.2/60.06]}{1.0}}

you wrote your Ka correctly up there, idk what happened.

you're correct that the Acetate ion and Hydronium ion concentrations will be the same.
 
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  • #56
but where does the 60.06 come from? what is that
 
  • #57
yoshi6 said:
but where does the 60.06 come from? what is that
let me fix that, i should have that within another fraction

how do you calculate molarity? what units should/are used for equilibrium concentrations?
 
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  • #58
molarity = moles of solute/ liter of solution
 
  • #59
yoshi6 said:
molarity = moles of solute/ liter of solution
what is the molar mass of Acetic acid and the moles of 1.2 grams of Acetic acid that will be dissolved?
 
  • #60
60.05 g/mol i think
 

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