Can someone help with Argand plane graphing and finding the radius?

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The discussion revolves around the geometrical representation of complex numbers on the Argand plane, specifically focusing on the equation "|z - z1| = k |z - z2|" and its implications for the shapes formed, such as circles. Participants express challenges in visualizing these concepts and seek clarification on the positions of complex numbers z1 and z2 relative to the resulting geometric figures.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests resources for understanding geometrical representations of complex numbers and mentions the need for an Argand plane graphing calculator.
  • Another participant inquires about the specific difficulties faced, suggesting a need for clarification on the problem at hand.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the equation "|z - z1| = k |z - z2|" and its representation as a circle, questioning the locations of z1 and z2 on that circle and the effects of varying k.
  • There are repeated inquiries about the positions of z1 and z2 concerning the circle and the identification of the center of the circle formed by the equation.
  • A participant suggests expanding the equation to derive a standard circle equation and provides a method for rearranging the terms to express the relationship in Cartesian coordinates.
  • Another participant presents a derived expression for the center of the circle based on the values of z1, z2, and k.
  • A participant notes that for k greater than 1, the center of the circle is closer to z2, while for k less than 1, it is closer to z1, but expresses difficulty in calculating the radius and understanding the positioning of z1 and z2 relative to the circle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding the geometrical implications of the equation, with no consensus reached on the specific locations of z1 and z2 or the calculation of the radius.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various values of k and their effects on the geometry, but the discussion does not resolve how these values influence the relationship between z1, z2, and the circle formed.

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I'm having trouble with the various geometrical representation of complex numbers.
Can someone provide me link where this is discussed, or maybe an argand plane graphing calculator online?
 
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I'm having trouble with visualizing " |z-z1| = k |z-z2|" where k is an real number. I know that it gives a circle, but where are the complex numbers z1 , z2 located on this circle? What deterrence do the different values of K make? (less than 0, more than 0, less than 1,etc.)

That is just one problem I came across in my book, but I'd love to see all the other different geometrical shapes and representations in the argand plane.
 
Where do z1 and z2 lie with respect to the circle that is formed? What complex number is the center?
 
AlchemistK said:
Where do z1 and z2 lie with respect to the circle that is formed? What complex number is the center?

Hey AlchemistK.

Try expanding the equation until you get the equation for a circle.

Consider that z = a + ib. What you want to do is get an equation in terms of the x and y coordinates, but in terms of an ellipse or circle: a circle has the equation (x-a)^2 + (y-b)^2 = r^2 for a circle centred at (a,b) with a radius r.

So arrange your equation in terms of your z1 and z2 by making them constant (z1 = c + di, z2 = e + fi) and solve in terms of your z (make z = a + bi). You're a and b terms will be variable (like say x and y in a normal cartesian function) and the c,d,e,f terms are just constants.

Rearrange them so that you an equation like (t - a)^2 + (u - b)^2 = r^2 for some constants t,u, and r where a and b correspond to the z = a + bi representation of z.

If you do this you will understand all the concepts and it will help you with later mathematics.
 
OK on taking z=x+iy, z1 = a+ib and z2= c+id and solving I get :

x^2 + y^2 + 2x[(a - c*k^2)/(k^2 -1)] + 2y[(b - d*k^2 )/(k^2 -1)] - R

Where R is some constant. So the center comes out to be :

[(c*k^2 -a)/(k^2 -1)] , [(d*k^2 -b)/(k^2 -1)]
 
For K greater than 1, the center lies closer to z2 and the other way around for z1.

So I can compare which one lies closer and hence should be in the interior, but I can't calculate the radius (very complex to solve) so I can't tell if there will be cases when both z1 and z2 are inside/outside/on the circle.
 

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