Can someone please recommend basic reading on wind tunnels?

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The discussion centers around recommendations for introductory reading on wind tunnels, with a focus on qualitative techniques such as smoke, paint, and streamers, and their application and interpretation in wind tunnel experiments.

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  • One participant requests guidance on introductory material regarding wind tunnels and the qualitative techniques used in their analysis.
  • Another participant suggests conducting a Google search for resources on wind tunnel design and shares a specific link to a document on basic principles of wind tunnel design.
  • A question is raised about the validity of gathering qualitative information without force measurements, suggesting that qualitative techniques may primarily serve to visualize and explain force measurements, although extreme turbulence might allow for some rough conclusions.
  • A participant recommends a comprehensive book on wind tunnel design and mentions other resources, noting that qualitative results can still provide valuable insights, such as identifying flow separation without needing complex measurements.
  • Humorously, one participant mentions a claim about a limitation regarding "virgos" conducting wind tunnel experiments, indicating a light-hearted tone amidst the technical discussion.

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There is no clear consensus on the necessity of force measurements in conjunction with qualitative techniques, as participants express differing views on the role and utility of qualitative information in wind tunnel studies.

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Some discussions touch on the limitations of qualitative techniques and the potential for drawing conclusions in specific scenarios, such as extreme turbulence, but these points remain unresolved and depend on further clarification of definitions and methodologies.

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This discussion may be useful for students or professionals interested in aerodynamics, experimental techniques in fluid dynamics, or those seeking foundational knowledge about wind tunnels and their applications.

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How do I use a wind tunnel for qualitative analysis?
Could someone please direct me to some introductory material on wind tunnels? Specifically, how are qualitative techniques (smoke, paint, streamers) applied and interpreted?

Thanks so much

Joe
 
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Is it even possible to gather "qualitative" information without force measurements, or are those techniques just used to visualize and explain the force measurements?
ADDED: Maybe in extreme cases, like extreme turbulence, some rough conclusions can be drawn.
 
The bible for wind tunnel design: https://www.wiley.com/en-us/Low-Speed+Wind+Tunnel+Testing,+3rd+Edition-p-9780471557746

An extremely thick tome on experimental techniques (though close to 20 years out of date now): https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-540-30299-5

Any introductory aerodynamics book will have a fair bit of examples peppered throughout that talk about wind tunnels, such as the texts by Anderson or Bertin and Cummings.

Qualitative results are certainly still useful. Things like "where and when does separation occur" don't need more sophisticated measurements like forces and moments (which are far more complicated to make than you'd think). You just need tufts or oil flow or other similar methods of visualizing the flow pattern.

Unfortunately, I think one of those books mentions that virgos can't conduct wind tunnel experiments. Sorry, I don't make the rules.
 
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