Can Specific Oscillating Electric Fields Heat Dipolar Molecules Selectively?

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The discussion explores the possibility of selectively heating specific dipolar molecules using oscillating electric fields, particularly in the context of avoiding heating surrounding water or other molecules. The inquiry includes theoretical considerations about ideal frequencies for different dipolar molecules and practical applications in biological tissues.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that in a vacuum, it may be theoretically possible to selectively heat specific molecules or atoms by using tailored oscillating electric fields, akin to the inverse of laser cooling.
  • Others argue that in a solution, selective heating is not feasible due to constant interactions among molecules, leading to uniform temperature across the liquid or solid.
  • A participant notes that microwave ovens utilize dielectric heating rather than resonating specifically with water molecules.
  • One participant raises the question of selectively heating specific cells within human tissue, such as liver tissue containing polarized sugars, suggesting that this is a more complex scenario than heating in a solution.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that targeting specific cell types could potentially be achieved using functionalized magnetic nanoparticles, which could allow for localized heating and drug delivery, although this remains in the research and development phase.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of selectively heating molecules in solutions versus in vacuums. There is no consensus on the methods or effectiveness of targeting specific cells within biological tissues.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the interactions of molecules in solutions and the need for more selective methods when considering biological applications. The effectiveness of proposed methods remains uncertain and is subject to ongoing research.

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Hi all!
I was wondering,
Is it possible, given a specific dipolar molecule, to create the perfect oscillating electric field so as to heat it and not, i.e. the water around it?
What I'm basically asking is could there exist a specific microwave just for X and not all dipolar molecules without differentiation? Does every dipolar molecule have its own ideal frequency? And if so- how specific could it be? (asking mainly in the interest of heating everything BUT water).
Thank u all in advance!
Maayan.
 
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If you have a certain molecule in a vacuum (in say a dilute gas) you should -at least in theory- be able to "heat" specific molecules/atoms it (give them more kinetic energy); essentially it is just the inverse of laser/Dopler cooling (although you would probably use lasers, not MW)

If you are asking if you can "selectively" heat a certain species of molecules that are part of a solution, the answer if no. All molecules in a liquid (or solid) constantly interact meaning the whole liquid will have the same temperature.
 
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f95toli said:
If you have a certain molecule in a vacuum (in say a dilute gas) you should -at least in theory- be able to "heat" specific molecules/atoms it (give them more kinetic energy); essentially it is just the inverse of laser/Dopler cooling (although you would probably use lasers, not MW)

If you are asking if you can "selectively" heat a certain species of molecules that are part of a solution, the answer if no. All molecules in a liquid (or solid) constantly interact meaning the whole liquid will have the same temperature.
hi! Thanks for the answer!
And if we are talking about human tissue i.e. liver tissue and a certain polarized sugar within it? Liver tissue isn't exactly a solution, more like a semi-solid mixture I would say?
I'm basically looking for new ways to heat specific cells within an organ, more than others.
Maayan
 
maayan_aloni said:
hi! Thanks for the answer!
And if we are talking about human tissue i.e. liver tissue and a certain polarized sugar within it? Liver tissue isn't exactly a solution, more like a semi-solid mixture I would say?
I'm basically looking for new ways to heat specific cells within an organ, more than others.
Maayan

No, you still need something that is more selective.
If you are talking about targeting specific cell types (as opposed to specific regions of the body) one possible method is to use functionalised magnetic nanoparticles. These are coated with biomarkers that bind to certain cells. An external magnetic field can then activate the nanoparticles and cause them to e.g. deliver a drug. This is AFAIK still only at the R&D stage
Years ago I did see suggestions that magnetic nanoparticles could be also used to create very local heating by simple inductive heating; I don't know if that is still something that is being pursued.
 

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