Can the Capacitor QT Equation Help Reduce Noise in Amplifiers?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the QT equation in the context of capacitors and its potential role in reducing noise in amplifiers. The subject area includes concepts from electronics and signal processing, particularly focusing on noise management in amplification circuits.

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  • Participants explore the implications of the QT equation and its modeling accuracy, questioning the presence of a missing minus sign. There is also a discussion on the impact of electromagnetic noise on the effectiveness of the model in practical scenarios.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the challenges of noise in amplifiers and the relevance of the QT equation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the model's limitations and the nature of electromagnetic noise.

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Participants note that noise can significantly affect the performance of amplifiers, especially in applications involving weak signals. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of noise in electronic circuits, which may require further exploration.

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Good evening. I have just done a course in physics about exponential decay, and had a (very) pedantic question about the equation for the discharge of a capacitor. My logic goes like this: the exponential equation for working out how much charge remains in a capacitor is asymptotic of Q=0 by the model I have been shown no matter what value of t has elapsed since the beginning of discharge. I understand that this is a very good model for predicting out comes, but I cannot think of a mechanism by which there will always be a small charge left in the capacitor- especially when t is sufficiently large enough so that Q<1.6E-19C, which is the charge of an electron. Can anyone provide an updated mathematical model, or possibly explain why my logic is wrong?
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QT=Q0et/τ
 
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Hello Jack, ##\quad## :welcome: ##\quad## !

First thing that comes to mind is to note a minus sign is missing :rolleyes: .

And then I'd say nothing's wrong with the model down to nine or so orders of magnitude. By then the discharging voltage disappears in the noise due to other effects (electromagnetic noise). That's generally considered pretty good for a model...
 
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Hello Jack, ##\quad## :welcome: ##\quad## !

First thing that comes to mind is to note a minus sign is missing :rolleyes: .

And then I'd say nothing's wrong with the model down to nine or so orders of magnitude. By then the discharging voltage disappears in the noise due to other effects (electromagnetic noise). That's generally considered pretty good for a model...
Ok, so it is fact a model. I didn't know EM noise was a thing. Thank you :)
 
Noise can be quite a problem in many circuits, for example when you are trying to amplify very weak radio signals. Amplifiers not only magnify the wanted signal but they also magnify any noise that comes with the signal and they add some noise themselves. "Instrumentation and noise" is a common university module for undergraduate electronics engineers.
 

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