How Long Does It Take for a Capacitor to Discharge in an RC Circuit?

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The discussion revolves around the discharge of a capacitor in an RC circuit, specifically focusing on the time it takes for the charge and energy to reduce to half their initial values. The circuit has a time constant of 25 ms and an initial voltage of 10 V.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between charge and voltage in the context of capacitor discharge, questioning the derivation of certain expressions and values used in calculations.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the correct expressions for energy stored in a capacitor and seek clarification on the calculations presented.
  • There are inquiries about the assumptions made regarding the equations and the values derived from them, particularly concerning the use of natural logarithms.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the expressions for energy and voltage, and there is an ongoing exploration of the calculations involved in determining the discharge times.

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1. Homework Statement

The capacitor in an RC circuit with a time constant of 25 ms is charged to 10 V. The capacitor begins to discharge at t = 0 s

2. Homework Equations
τ=RC
ΔVC=(ΔVC)e^-t/τ


3. The Attempt at a Solution
part a) At what time will the charge on the capacitor be reduced to half its initial value?

10 ln 5 = (10)e^-τ/.025s
ln 5 = -τ/.025s
ln 5(.025s)= τ
τ=0.04 s

part b) At what time will the energy stored in the capacitor be reduced to half its initial value?

Not sure, but any hints as to my next step would be appreciated...
 
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Mebmt said:
1. Homework Statement

The capacitor in an RC circuit with a time constant of 25 ms is charged to 10 V. The capacitor begins to discharge at t = 0 s

2. Homework Equations
τ=RC
ΔVC=(ΔVC)e^-t/τ


3. The Attempt at a Solution
part a) At what time will the charge on the capacitor be reduced to half its initial value?

10 ln 5 = (10)e^-τ/.025s
ln 5 = -τ/.025s
ln 5(.025s)= τ
τ=0.04 s
Where did the 10 ln 5 in the first line come from?
The result for your time value looks a bit high.
part b) At what time will the energy stored in the capacitor be reduced to half its initial value?

Not sure, but any hints as to my next step would be appreciated...

What's an expression for the energy stored on a capacitor?
 
Mebmt said:
2. Homework Equations
τ=RC
ΔVC=(ΔVC)e^-t/τ

Is the same ΔVC on both sides? That would mean e^-t/τ=1 all time.

Mebmt said:
part a) At what time will the charge on the capacitor be reduced to half its initial value?

10 ln 5 = (10)e^-τ/.025s

Where does that ln5 come?

ehild
 
Where did the 10 ln 5 in the first line come from?

I used 10 V * ln 5 to signify that ln 5 was half of the initial value.

Instead I should have used 5
ΔV final=(ΔV initial)e^-t/τ

5 = 10e^-τ/.025s
0.5 = e^-τ/.025s
ln 0.5 = -τ/.025
ln 0.5(.025) = -τ
τ= 0.013 s

gneill said:
Where did the 10 ln 5 in the first line come from?
The result for your time value looks a bit high.


What's an expression for the energy stored on a capacitor?
Uc=0.5 C (ΔVc)^2 or Q = C ΔVc

Easy to solve if I have C or Q
 
Mebmt said:
Where did the 10 ln 5 in the first line come from?

I used 10 V * ln 5 to signify that ln 5 was half of the initial value.

Instead I should have used 5
ΔV final=(ΔV initial)e^-t/τ
Why not write v(t) = vi e-t/τ ?
5 = 10e^-τ/.025s
0.5 = e^-τ/.025s
ln 0.5 = -τ/.025
ln 0.5(.025) = -τ
τ= 0.013 s
Check the calculation on that last step.
Uc=0.5 C (ΔVc)^2 or Q = C ΔVc

Easy to solve if I have C or Q
C is just a proportionality constant; it won't affect the relative change in magnitude of the function.

Write the expression for the energy stored on a capacitor versus voltage. Plug in your expression for the voltage versus time.
 
gneill said:
Why not write v(t) = vi e-t/τ ?

Check the calculation on that last step.

Yes. Should have been 0.017 s or 17 ms

C is just a proportionality constant; it won't affect the relative change in magnitude of the function.

Write the expression for the energy stored on a capacitor versus voltage. Plug in your expression for the voltage versus time.

Uc= .5 Q (Δv)^2
 

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