Can the Lambert-W Function Solve the Integral of x^x?

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The discussion centers around the integral of the function \( x^x \), specifically exploring whether it can be expressed in terms of elementary functions or solved using the Lambert-W function. Participants consider various methods of approaching the integral, including infinite series and numerical methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the integral \( \int x^x dx \) cannot be expressed in elementary functions, suggesting that it may only be represented as an infinite series.
  • One participant proposes that the integral can be expressed as \( \int x^x dx = C + \sum_{k=0}^\infty \int_0^x \frac{\log^k(t)}{k!}t^k dt \), indicating a potential method for approximation.
  • Another participant mentions that while the integral cannot be expressed neatly, it does have a solution that is not straightforward.
  • Some participants discuss the possibility of using the Lambert-W function, drawing parallels to its application in "power tower" functions, although there is uncertainty about its effectiveness in this context.
  • There are mentions of specific cases, such as \( \int x^{-x} dx \) and the definite integrals \( \int_0^1 x^x dx \) and \( \int_0^1 x^{-x} dx \), which are described as more manageable.
  • One participant expresses a willingness to develop an algorithm or program to numerically solve the integral if there is interest.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the integral cannot be expressed in elementary functions, but there is disagreement regarding the potential utility of the Lambert-W function and the effectiveness of numerical methods. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to the integral.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference the limitations of their calculators and the complexity of the integral, indicating that assumptions about the nature of the functions involved may affect the discussion.

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Hello, a question: is there a reasonable way to obtain \int x^xdx ??
 
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Not that my TI-89 knows of.
 
The integral cannot be expressed in elementary functions.
If an infinite series will do
\int \ x^xdx=\int \ e^{x\log(x)}dx=C+\sum_{k=0}^\infty \ \int_0^x \ \frac{\log^k(t)}{k!}t^kdt
so if an infinite sum will do find an easy integral gets you a nice one.
\int \ x^{-x}dx
is similar
\int_0^1 x^xdx
and
\int_0^1 x^{-x}dx
are extra nice
 
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Thanks to both of you.

Castilla.
 
Castilla said:
Thanks to both of you.

Castilla.

Yea thanks.

Is there a way to remove the integral sign? Looks like they can be analytically determined. for example:

\int x^2ln^2(x)dx=2/3 x^3-2/9 x^3ln(x)+1/3 x^3ln^2(x)

and higher powers involve corresponding higher powers of x and ln(x) in the antiderivative.
 
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Castilla said:
Hello, a question: is there a reasonable way to obtain \int x^xdx ??

It is provably impossible to represent that antiderivative as a finite combination of elementary functions. See the bottom of http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Integral.html for a confrimation of this fact.

This is not to say that it does not have a solution, it just not pretty.
 
The Problem could be solved by using the
integral of the infinite series
which could be calculated by the numerical methods
if u are interested in the solution i may work out the
algorithm or program for You
 
Idea

My intuition tells me you can use the Lambert-W function on this one. Just as Eisenstein made it work for "power tower" functions (N^N^N^N^N^N^N...). It might work.

If you want to know about that function, check the link on the post "A very interesting question about Complex Variable"
 
SebastianG said:
My intuition tells me you can use the Lambert-W function on this one. Just as Eisenstein made it work for "power tower" functions (N^N^N^N^N^N^N...). It might work.
If you want to know about that function, check the link on the post "A very interesting question about Complex Variable"

Something tells me that might make it worse.
 

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