Can the physics of consciousness transcend space-time?

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The discussion explores the intersection of consciousness, time, and quantum mechanics, particularly focusing on the phenomenon of déjà vu. A theory is proposed suggesting that during REM sleep, brain activity may allow for experiences that transcend space-time, potentially linking dreams to future events. Participants reference Cramer's Transactional Interpretation of quantum mechanics, which posits that quantum wavefunctions can move both forward and backward in time, creating a "handshake" effect. Skepticism is expressed regarding the validity of linking déjà vu to quantum mechanics, with some suggesting it is more likely a psychological phenomenon rather than a genuine experience of foreknowledge. The conversation encourages documenting dreams to investigate any correlations with future experiences, emphasizing the need for empirical evidence in understanding these complex topics.
  • #61
Ivan Seeking said:
We have some nice related references in posts 10 and 11 of this thread:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=58374

Thanks Ivan Seeking,

I like this approach:

Consciousness and Complexity
Conventional approaches to understanding consciousness are generally concerned with the contribution of speciÞc brain areas or groups of neurons. By contrast, it is considered here what kinds of neural processes can account for key properties of conscious experience. Applying measures of neural integration and complexity, together with an analysis of extensive neurological data, leads to a testable proposal Ñ the dynamic core hypothesisÑabout the properties of the neural substrate of consciousness.
http://scholar.google.com/url?q=http.../tononi282.pdf

The brain is organized is such a way as to support the survival of the organism it monitors and that, in turn, supports the brain. Thus, our awareness or consciousness is going to reflect the necessities involved in keeping the (host) organism alive and this will probably determine the quality of "consciousness" experienced by the said brain. So, the "neural substrate of consciousness" will be configured in a practical manner that supports life as we are accustomed to it. How much of our helpful, supportive neurons do you think are devoted to "transcending space and time"?
 
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  • #62
I thought this one was interesting.

Spin as Primordial Self-Referential Process Driving Quantum Mechanics, Spacetime Dynamics and Consciousness
http://66.102.1.104/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=cache:oMnlFW9h5zkJ:www.neuroquantology.com/JOURNAL/index.php/nq/article/viewPDFInterstitial/35/
 
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  • #63
Here is one to cause some fits.

Abstract Theoretical explication of a growing body of empirical data on consciousness-related anomalous phenomena is unlikely to be achieved in terms of known physical processes. Rather, it will first be necessary to formulate the basic role of consciousness in the definition of reality before such anomalous experience can adequately be represented. This paper takes the position that reality is constituted only in the interaction of consciousness with its environment, and therefore that any scheme of conceptual organization developed to represent that reality must reflect the processes of consciousness as well as those of its environment. In this spirit, the concepts and formalisms of elementary quantum mechanics, as originally proposed to explain anomalous atomic-scale physical phenomena, are appropriated via metaphor to represent the general characteristics of consciousness interacting with any environment...
http://www.springerlink.com/content/vtrr87tg356154r7/
 
  • #64
Ivan Seeking said:
Here is one to cause some fits.
Theoretical explication of a growing body of empirical data on consciousness-related anomalous phenomena is unlikely to be achieved in terms of known physical processes.

wait a minute..

"consciousness-related anomalous phenomena"

C.R.A.P. ?

:smile:

sorry, I just couldn't resist. :redface:
 
  • #65
Math Is Hard said:
wait a minute..

"consciousness-related anomalous phenomena"

C.R.A.P. ?

:smile:

sorry, I just couldn't resist. :redface:

:smile: Oh what an unfortunate oversight that was!

I had never heard of it, but the journal is listed in the Thomson Index.
 

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