Can we design vehicle for animal self powered?

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The discussion explores the feasibility of designing a vehicle powered by animals, akin to bicycles for humans, to enhance efficiency and reduce fatigue. Participants suggest various mechanisms, including treadmills and wheeled carts, to harness animal power while addressing steering challenges. Concerns are raised about the practicality of training animals to operate such vehicles independently and the overall efficiency compared to traditional towing methods. The conversation also touches on the comparative efficiency of biking versus walking, emphasizing that while biking is generally more efficient, terrain and animal capabilities complicate the design of an animal-powered vehicle. Ultimately, the idea remains intriguing but faces significant practical hurdles.
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I have clarify my reasoning more and more between the first and the last so that should not be a problem to many people that listen and talk with me while try to really thinking. Most people being useful here because they understand
Only some person who don't actually read but try to mess with all people right here

To have some analogy for you. Do you know the rice milling machine in form of treadmill? Do you know that in the old day we mill the rice by let animal and people walk on the rice directly?
Why we create milling machine by threading and use animal to run on treadmill?

Do you know the bicycle pushing cart? Why people use it instead of pushing by walking?

In the history. We human always just use cow or buffalo to draft thing directly. Like we push a cart by walking
So I just start the tread for gather the idea about, how could we have something like a bicycle pushing cart for animal
And I start with just bicycle for animal first. It can be used in transportation. Add cart and tool for farming is option

I try to open for idea. People may have idea for this wider than me so I not tell fully purpose in the first place
 
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  • #62
ThainaYu said:
I think to train animal to use is not problem at all. What I really want is the design that would be sure easy and comfortable for the animal (it would be effect to training too) and about efficiency that should be useful as much as possible
I doubt it would be very efficient if you account for having to feed and care for the animal. They are not a "free" source of power. But you would have to do an actual calculation of the cost of maintaining the animal, and figure out the amount of useful work (energy) the animal can produce. Then compare that to the cost and work output of existing farm equipment.

The actual reason I think about this is to resurrect buffalo farming of my homeland. Also horse and cow farming around the world. To have green energy and preserve friendly animal relationship
But to do that. Efficiency is very crucial to benefit people who tame them
"Green" seems to be ill-defined, or may be an inappropriate criterion here. The animals would still produce greenhouse gases, and you need to compare that to the amount of gases produced by existing engines.
 
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  • #63
Because there are byproduct from caring animal that's why I'm not concern much about feed and caring. And it not so very different between machine maintenance. I have approximate that the transportation of fuel would be cost too
And if the animal could be less efficient but not too far then it would be competition of way to do farming

I may misconception the word "green" but at least it not produce carbonmonoxide and unnatural poison like oil and gas did. Also the oil was decrease from the world right now that's why

Thanks for help me concerning
 
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