Can We Expand a Non-L^2 Function into an Orthonormal Basis?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of expanding a function that is not in the L² space into an orthonormal basis of functions. Participants explore the conditions under which such an expansion might be valid, particularly focusing on the convergence of the series and the nature of the coefficients involved.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that if the coefficients \( c_{n} = \int_{0}^{\infty} dx f(x) \phi_{n}(x) \) are finite, then it may be valid to express the function \( f(x) \) as a series expansion \( f(x) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \phi_{n}(x) \), despite the divergence of \( \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} |c_{n}|^{2} \).
  • Another participant questions the validity of the proposed expansion, stating that the function cannot be equal to the sum for any reason and challenges the assumption that an L² function is equal to its Fourier series.
  • A later reply clarifies that the orthonormal functions are part of L² space, while the function \( f(x) \) is not, and proposes that the series could represent an "asymptotic" approximation of the function using a finite number of coefficients.
  • Further challenges arise regarding the definition of the basis and the nature of the equivalence relation, with participants seeking clarification on what the basis is a part of and the meaning of the notation used.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement on the validity of the proposed expansion and the conditions under which it might hold. There is no consensus on whether the series can represent the function or the implications of the coefficients being finite.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight missing definitions regarding the basis and the nature of the equivalence relation used in the proposed expansion. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the convergence of the series for specific values of \( x \) and the conditions under which the equality or asymptotic representation might be valid.

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Let,s suppose we have a function f(x) which is not on [tex]L^{2}[/tex] space but that we choose a basis of orthononormal functions so the coefficients:

[tex]c_{n}=\int_{0}^{\infty}dxf(x)\phi_{n}(x)[/tex] are finite.

would be valid to expand the series into this basis in the form:

[tex]f(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\phi_{n}(x)[/tex] of course the sum:

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}|c_{n}|^{2}[/tex] would diverge
 
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I presume you meant to include the coefficients (cn) in the infinite series for f(x). Depending on the properties of f(x), the series may or may not converge for any specific x.
 
1. Pick a basis of what?

2. No that function is not equal to that sum for any reason at all, now wouldit be if you even put the c_n in as you meant to

3. It is not even true that an L^2 function is equal to its Fourier series
 
-I said a basis of orthonormal function (they are on L^{2} but f(x) isn,t)

-If the integral [tex]c_{n}=\int_{0}^{\infty}dxf(x)\phi_{n}(x)[/tex] is finite then every c coefficient exist.

-then when it would the equality hold?...[tex]f(x)\sim\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}c_{n}\phi_{n}(x)[/tex]

perhapsh we could consider it to be an "asymptotic" representation of the function by means of eigenfunctions in the sense that you take only a few finite coefficients to approximate the function.
 
1. You didn't, and still haven't said what they are a basis of. L^2 of what?

2. Why say equal and then write ~? Define your equivalence relation.
 

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