Can you help me evaluate the integral in this linear differential equation?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating an integral within the context of a linear differential equation. Participants are attempting to find the general solution and are focused on the integration factor derived from the function p(x).

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  • Participants discuss the difficulty of evaluating a specific integral and question whether the original differential equation might differ from what is currently being analyzed. There are attempts to clarify the nature of the integral and its closed form status.

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Some participants have offered insights into the nature of the integral and its implications for the solution. There is ongoing exploration of potential typos in the problem statement, and the discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the solvability of the equation.

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Participants are seeking clarification on the original problem statement and the definition of a "closed form" solution. There is an emphasis on the need for the original equation to accurately assess the integral's solvability.

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Homework Statement
Fing the general solution
Relevant Equations
Integrating factor = exp{integral[p(x)]}
I tried it but I don't know how to evaluate the integral on the last equation. Help.
 

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Butterfly41398 said:
Homework Statement:: Fing the general solution
Relevant Equations:: Integrating factor = exp{integral[p(x)]}

I tried it but I don't know how to evaluate the integral on the last equation. Help.
Can you post a photo of the problem as given in your book?
 
It seems to me what you did is almost correct (you forgot the integration constant though so that equation should be $$ye^{x^2}=\int x^2e^{x^2}dx+C$$)
However the above integral doesn't have a closed form. Perhaps the original equation is $$\frac{dy}{dx}=x^3-2xy$$? (or even $$\frac{dy}{dx}=x-2xy$$) cause if it is so then the integral will be $$\int x^3 e^{x^2} dx$$ (or $$\int xe^{x^2} dx$$) and will have a closed form.
 
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Delta2 said:
However the above integral doesn't have a closed form.
Which is why I asked to see the original problem, in case it's different from what is being worked on here.
 
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Mark44 said:
Can you post a photo of the problem as given in your book?
That's really what is given on the book sir.
 

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Delta2 said:
It seems to me what you did is almost correct (you forgot the integration constant though so that equation should be $$ye^{x^2}=\int x^2e^{x^2}dx+C$$)
However the above integral doesn't have a closed form. Perhaps the original equation is $$\frac{dy}{dx}=x^3-2xy$$? (or even $$\frac{dy}{dx}=x-2xy$$) cause if it is so then the integral will be $$\int x^3 e^{x^2} dx$$ (or $$\int xe^{x^2} dx$$) and will have a closed form.
I've attached the original pocture sir. It's really x^2. So does that mean the differential equation can't be solved? And by means "closed form" what does it mean sir. I want to know more. Tnx in advance.
 

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By closed form we mean a form that is finite and contains only the elementary well known functions (##x^n,\sin x, e^x,\ln x,a^x## e.t.c) for example $$y=\frac{\tan(x^2e^{x^2}+1)+\ln({x^3+1})}{2^x}$$ is a closed form (no matter how complex it might be).

In this case we cannot express the integral as a closed form so all we can do is write the integral in the solution just as it is, so the solution would be $$y=e^{-x^2}\left ( \int x^2e^{x^2} dx+C\right )$$ which is a solution not in closed form. So a solution exists , but simply we cannot write the solution in closed form.

I suspect a typo in the statement of the problem, it should be ##x## or ##x^3##, can't explain it otherwise.
 
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Delta2 said:
I suspect a typo in the statement of the problem
I do, too, unless the intent was to give the solution in terms of the integral shown in Delta2's post.
 

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