Can you help me solve this differential equation using laplace transforms?

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation using Laplace transforms, specifically the equation x''(t) + 6x'(t) + 8x(t) = sin(3t) with zero initial conditions and forcing functions being zero prior to t=0.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of Laplace transforms and the simplification of the resulting expression. There are attempts to perform partial fraction decomposition and compare coefficients to solve for unknowns. Some participants question the correctness of the initial Laplace transform and the interpretation of the resulting expression.

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There are multiple interpretations of the expression for X(s), with participants providing feedback on potential mistakes and suggesting re-evaluation of the transform. Some participants have identified errors in their calculations and are seeking confirmation on their revised solutions, indicating an ongoing exploration of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Solve the differential equation using laplace transforms. Assume zero intial conditions and that the forcing functions are zero prior to t=0

x''(t) + 6x'(t) +8x(t)=sin3t

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



I took the laplace transform which I found to be after simplyfing

X(s)=-8s^2-57/(s^2+3^2)(s^2+6s)

after partial fraction decompistion and comparing coeffcients I found these equations

0=a+b+c+d
-8=6a+6b+6c
0= 9c
-57=54c+9d

When I plug that into Ax=b it gives me free variables. i am not sure if my logic is wrong or I just made some mistakes along the way. Any help would be gratly appreciated.

MEM33
 
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I just made it. Try to write the two polynomials as a factor of the roots like (s-r1)(s-r2)(s-r3)(s-r4).
I also think you made the transform wrong.
Btw, if when you factor the poly in the denominator you can get the part.frac coefficients like this:
\lim\limits_{s\rightarrow r_1}\{X(s)(s-r_1)\}
Can you see why?
 
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dikmikkel said:
I just made it. Try to write the two polynomials as a factor of the roots like (s-r1)(s-r2)(s-r3)(s-r4).
I also think you made the transform wrong.
Btw, if when you factor the poly in the denominator you can get the part.frac coefficients like this:
\lim\limits_{s\rightarrow r_1}\{X(s)(s-r_1)\}
Can you see why?
I found my mistake

Thanks!
 
MEM33 said:

Homework Statement



Solve the differential equation using laplace transforms. Assume zero intial conditions and that the forcing functions are zero prior to t=0

x''(t) + 6x'(t) +8x(t)=sin3t

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I took the laplace transform which I found to be after simplyfing

X(s)=-8s^2-57/(s^2+3^2)(s^2+6s)

after partial fraction decompistion and comparing coeffcients I found these equations

0=a+b+c+d
-8=6a+6b+6c
0= 9c
-57=54c+9d

When I plug that into Ax=b it gives me free variables. i am not sure if my logic is wrong or I just made some mistakes along the way. Any help would be gratly appreciated.

MEM33

Is your expression supposed to be X(s) = -8s^2 -\frac{57}{(s^2+3^2)(s^2+6s)} \text{ or }<br /> X(s) = \frac{-8s^2 - 57}{(s^2+3^2)(s^2+6s)}?
Using standard rules the expression, as written, means the first one.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
Is your expression supposed to be X(s) = -8s^2 -\frac{57}{(s^2+3^2)(s^2+6s)} \text{ or }<br /> X(s) = \frac{-8s^2 - 57}{(s^2+3^2)(s^2+6s)}?
Using standard rules the expression, as written, means the first one.

RGV
Sorry after re-working it my X(s) looks like 15/(s^2 + 3^2)(s +4)(s +2)

and my solution is X(t) = -.4cos(3t) +.5sin(3t) - .3exp(-4t) +.47exp(-2t)

Can anyone tell me if that is the correct solution?
 
i get (evaluated as decimal numbers):
-0.06\cos(3t)-0.003\sin(3t)+0.12e^{-2t}-0.06e^{-4t}
 

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