Can You Solve This Integration Problem with a Little Help from Trigonometry?

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This is what I have so far:

[tex]\int (\frac{x^2}{\sqrt{4 + x^2}}) dx[/tex]

[tex]x = 2 tan u[/tex]
[tex]dx = (2 sec^2u) du[/tex]

[tex]x^2 = 4 tan^2 u[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{4 + x^2} = \sqrt{4 + 4 tan^2 u}[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{4 + x^2} = \sqrt{4 (1 + tan^2 u}[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{4 + x^2} = \sqrt{4 sec^2 u}[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{4 + x^2} = 2 sec u[/tex]

Then I have:

[tex]\int (\frac{x^2}{\sqrt{4 + x^2}}) dx = \int \frac{4 tan^2 u}{2 sec u} 2 sec^2 u du[/tex]

[tex]\int (\frac{x^2}{\sqrt{4 + x^2}}) dx = \int (4 tan^2 u)(sec u) du[/tex]

I keep getting stuck on this part, any ideas?
 
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Assuming your work is correct ...

[tex]4\int\tan^{2}\theta\sec \theta d\theta[/tex]

[tex]4\int(\sec \theta \tan \theta) \tan \theta d\theta[/tex]

Or go straight to this ...

[tex]4\int(\sec^{3}\theta-\sec \theta) d\theta[/tex]

Either way, integration by parts!
 
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Taking that...

[tex]4\int(\sec u \tan u) \tan u du[/tex]

And knowing that:

[tex]\int(\sec u \tan u) du = \sec u + C[/tex]

and...

[tex]\int\sec u du = ln |\sec u + \tan u|)+ C[/tex]

Can we just do it by parts that way?

So...

[tex]\int (\frac{x^2}{\sqrt{4 + x^2}}) dx = 4(\sec u + ln |\sec u + \tan u|) + C[/tex]

(crosses figures) :blushing:
 
Ravenatic20 said:
Can we just do it by parts that way?
You must be drunk!

[tex]4\int(\sec \theta \tan \theta) \tan \theta d\theta[/tex]

Usually, you want to reserve "u" so I'm using theta in it's place.

[tex]u=\tan \theta[/tex]
[tex]du=\sec^{2} \theta d\theta[/tex]

[tex]dV=\sec \theta \tan \theta d\theta[/tex]
[tex]V=\sec \theta[/tex]

[tex]4\int(\sec \theta \tan \theta) \tan \theta d\theta=4(\sec \theta \tan \theta-\int\sec^{3}\theta d\theta)[/tex]

Do parts again, you will actually have to do it 3x, I think. Take [tex]\int\sec^{3}\theta d\theta[/tex] to the side and you will notice that you get it back. Just move it to the other side and divide by the constant, and it's solved.
 
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No I'm not drunk, I'm just new to this material. However I think were just about done:

I understand how you did everything, so now...

[tex]4\int(\sec \theta \tan \theta) \tan \theta d\theta=4(\sec \theta \tan \theta-\int\sec^{3}\theta d\theta)[/tex]
Where... [tex]\int\sec^{3}\theta d\theta) = \frac{1}{2} \sec \theta \tan \theta + \frac{1}{2} ln|sec \theta + tan \theta| + C[/tex]

This gives us:
[tex]\int (\frac{x^2}{\sqrt{4 + x^2}}) dx = 4 (\sec x \tan x)-\frac{1}{2} \sec x \tan x + \frac{1}{2} ln|sec x + tan x| + C[/tex]

?
 
To be honest, I did not work it out myself. Looks good though! Btw, hopefully you weren't angry with my comment. I didn't mean anything by it in terms of you just having learned this :p But um, your answer could be right, all depends if your teacher wants you to re-substitute ... this would be the most painful part, lol.
 
Haha no offense taken and thanks for your help!
 
Actually, he meant it helps to be drunk when doing calculus!
 
A much faster way to learn these type of integrals is to go through a standard textbook step by step, and use paper and pen.
 
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ssd said:
A much faster way to learn these type of integrals is to go through a standard textbook step by step, and use paper and pen.
Really? Mr. Obvious.
 
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Another way of doing this integral is by using the substitution:

[tex]x=2\cdot sinh(t)[/tex]

after setting:

[tex]x^2=x^2+4-4[/tex]

in the numerator. You will end up with:

[tex]I=\frac{x}{2}\sqrt{4+x^2}-2\cdot argsinh\left( \frac{x}{2}\right)+C[/tex]

Btw: I'm sober :wink:
 
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rocophysics said:
Really? Mr. Obvious.
Some times people has to be more obvious than needed for some people who are reluctent to see in textbooks the standard result like

integral [sqrt(a^2 + x^2)] dx = (x/2) sqrt(a^2 + x^2)+ [(a^2)/2] ln|(x+sqrt(a^2+x^2)|+c
(I leave the derivation of this result for obvious reasons)

and cannot see x^2 = x^2 +a^2-a^2, as shown in the previous post by COOMAST. Then the remaining term is easily (obviously?) undone by substituting x=2tan(u).
After COOMAST's method, I would prefer this method as it will be easier to go back in terms of the original veriable. Is it obv...?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Actually, he meant it helps to be drunk when doing calculus!

Don't drink and derive.
 

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