Capacitor Polarity: Which Edge is Negative?

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The discussion revolves around identifying the negative and positive leads of surface mount capacitors on a circuit board from an older widescreen TV. Participants explore various methods to determine polarity, including physical characteristics and circuit measurements, while addressing challenges related to the specific type of capacitors used.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the longer lead indicates the positive side, but this may not apply to surface mount capacitors.
  • One participant mentions that a stripe on the capacitor indicates the negative lead, while a bevel indicates the positive lead, referencing a standard for compliant parts.
  • Another method proposed involves measuring resistance across the leads and determining polarity based on which configuration yields higher resistance.
  • A participant expresses concern about identifying leads on an existing board and emphasizes the importance of knowing the correct orientation for replacement capacitors.
  • Some participants discuss the potential for damaging the circuit during soldering and the challenges of repairing fine, multi-layered traces on the PCB.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple methods for determining capacitor polarity, but there is no consensus on the best approach, particularly given the challenges posed by surface mount technology and existing circuit conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the limitations of relying on lead length for surface mount capacitors and the potential for damage to the circuit during repair attempts. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the best practices for identifying capacitor leads in this specific context.

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I'm an only somewhat-experienced electronics tinkerer. I'm working on a board from an older widescreen TV. It has these kinds of capacitors:
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I've looked everywhere online.

Which edge is negative? The black(purple) or the grey?
 
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There is another way to determine which side is the + side and the - side. The + side's lead will be longer than the - side's lead.
 
Considering that these are surface mount capacitors, I believe it will be quite difficult to determine which lead is longer. However, there is a standard for this (assuming these are compliant parts). The side with the stripe on top indicates the negative lead, and the side with the bevels indicates the positive one:

http://www.marketa.com/cht/pdf/ele/sc_series.pdf
 
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If all else fails, measure the resistance across the leads. Then reverse the polarity and measure the resistance again. The polarity that gives the highest resistance is correct.
 
Corneo said:
There is another way to determine which side is the + side and the - side. The + side's lead will be longer than the - side's lead.
Not if I'm examining an existing board!

skeptic2 said:
If all else fails, measure the resistance across the leads. Then reverse the polarity and measure the resistance again. The polarity that gives the highest resistance is correct.
How does that tell me which is the negative lead?

See, I'm replacing all these capacitors with newer ones of a different type. I don't know the circuit. I know what's negative on my existing caps, I just need to know which way to put them in.

Looks like the negative side of a cap is always indicatged by the "stripe" or "bar".

Good. That means I put them all in correctly and don't have to redo the whole thing!:-p
 
Can you power up the circuit and measure which is negative on the caps? If not, usually circuits have a positive supply and a negative ground. Many times large caps have the negative side connected to ground.
 
Alas, all my careful soldering seems to have been for naught. Now the TV gets no picture.

Most likely I've fried the board with my ham-fisted soldering iron technique.
Second most likely, I've broken some of the delicate traces when the capacitors came off.

Oh well, it cost me nothing.
 
Use some 30ga wire to bridge the broken traces. Don't give up yet.
 
dlgoff said:
Use some 30ga wire to bridge the broken traces. Don't give up yet.
Yeah but the trouble is, they're so fine and they're multi-layered on the PCB so it's virtually impossible to tell where they connect to.
 

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