Capacitors charge and voltage relationship

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between charge, voltage, and capacitance in capacitors. Participants are exploring how changes in voltage affect charge and capacitance, as well as the fundamental properties that define capacitance.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the relationship between charge, voltage, and capacitance, with some suggesting that capacitance is determined by physical characteristics rather than voltage or charge. Others are exploring whether capacitance can change with varying charge and voltage.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing different perspectives on the nature of capacitance and its dependence on physical parameters versus electrical conditions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the geometric nature of capacitance, but multiple interpretations are still being explored.

Contextual Notes

There is an underlying assumption that the physical characteristics of the capacitor, such as plate area and separation, remain constant during the discussion. Participants are also considering scenarios involving more complex capacitors where capacitance may vary with voltage or frequency.

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Homework Statement



When the voltage across the two plates of a capacitor is increased then:

*a. the charge will increase

b. the charge will decrease

c. the capacitance will increase

d. the capacitance will decrease


Homework Equations



CV=Q

The Attempt at a Solution



I answered that the capacitance will decrease instead of the charge increasing because if the voltage is not constant ie not connected to a voltage source, the charge doesn't change but the capacitance does.
 
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what other rules do you know about capacitance? For example, do you know the equation for the capacitance between two parallel plates?
 
The capacitance is determined by the area of the plates, their separation and the material between the plates.
The capacitance is not determined by the voltage or the chatge.
So what 2 quantities do depend on each other ?
 
but can't the capacitance change with changes in charge and voltage? because I was told that when the voltage is constant charge and capacitance change and otherwise the voltage and capacitance change
 
or is it like if capacitance changes then the other one changes, but they can both change without capacitance having to change
 
As technician said, the capacitance of the capacitor is purely geometric, i.e. how it was made. So if you used a different capacitor, then the capacitance would change.
 
ok, so changes in like distance of plates area etc. will change capacitance and X other characteristic but never the other way around
 
What do you mean by 'X other characteristics'? But I think the answer is yes. We usually assume that the distance of plates and area etc of the capacitor are not changed.
 
X as in charge or voltage
 
  • #10
Yes, that's right.
 
  • #11
If you look on wikipedia, there are more complicated capacitors whose capacitance is voltage-dependent or frequency-dependent. But I think it is usually assumed that the capacitance doesn't change when these things change.
 

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