What Is the Emissivity of Carbon Steel for IR Thermometer Use?

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The discussion centers on the emissivity of carbon steel and its implications for using an infrared (IR) thermometer with a fixed emissivity setting of 0.95 to measure cutting temperatures. Participants explore the variability of emissivity values based on material properties and conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the emissivity of carbon steel for IR thermometer use, specifically questioning its suitability with a fixed emissivity of 0.95.
  • Another participant suggests that the emissivity of carbon steel is approximately 0.3.
  • A subsequent reply expresses concern that using a fixed emissivity of 0.95 with a material that has an emissivity of 0.3 could lead to inaccurate temperature readings.
  • One participant references OMEGA's emissivity tables, noting that emissivity can vary significantly based on temperature, surface finish, and oxidation, and suggests measuring the specific sample's properties experimentally.
  • Another participant reiterates the variability of emissivity values for steel, indicating that carbon steel could fall under different categories with emissivity values ranging from 0.07 to 0.91.
  • There is a discussion about categorizing carbon steel rolls, with suggestions that they may belong to categories such as "Cold Rolled" or "Mild Steel, Smooth," which have different emissivity ranges.
  • One participant mentions the need to make engineering decisions based on whether to minimize or maximize heat transfer, depending on the application.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the emissivity of carbon steel, with no consensus reached regarding a specific value. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the appropriate emissivity to use for accurate temperature measurements.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that emissivity is influenced by various factors, including surface finish and oxidation, and emphasize the need for experimental measurement to determine accurate values for specific applications.

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May i know what is the emissivity for carbon steel ?
Is it suitable for me if i using IR thermometer(with emissivity 0.95fixed) to measure cutting temperature ?
 
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Approximately 0.3
 
middlj said:
Approximately 0.3

Omg...Just 0.3 ? Then if i use 0.95 to measure it...the accuracy is very slow right ?
 
OMEGA has a large table of emissivity values for common materials. You can start there, and maybe use a scaling factor to correct for the incorrect emissivity assumption of the thermometer. Problem is, emissivity varies strongly as a function of tempertuare, surface finish, oxidation, etc. Based on the fact that Omega's table shows Steel can vary anywhere from 0.07-0.91, I think you're going to need to measure you specific sample's properties experimentally, or get a solid temperature-dependent published table of values for your specific material and surface finish.

http://www.omega.com/literature/transactions/volume1/emissivitya.html
 
Mech_Engineer said:
OMEGA has a large table of emissivity values for common materials. You can start there, and maybe use a scaling factor to correct for the incorrect emissivity assumption of the thermometer. Problem is, emissivity varies strongly as a function of tempertuare, surface finish, oxidation, etc. Based on the fact that Omega's table shows Steel can vary anywhere from 0.07-0.91, I think you're going to need to measure you specific sample's properties experimentally, or get a solid temperature-dependent published table of values for your specific material and surface finish.

http://www.omega.com/literature/transactions/volume1/emissivitya.html

Thanks for it...
but may i know Carbon steel roll is belong to which categories ? carbon unoxidized ?
 
No, it would belong in the Steel category, probably under either "Cold Rolled," "Mild Steel, Smooth," or "Steel, Unoxidized." Problem is, Cold Rolled has an e of .75-.85, while Steel, Unoxidized has an e or .08.

Depending on your application, you may have to make an engineering decision based on what would be considered "worst case." If you need to minimize heat transfer, use the higher e so you at least have more heat flowing than might be "real." If you're hoping to maximize heat transfer, use the lower e. Doing any better than that will require you experimentally measure the emissivity to at least see which ballpark you should be in.
 

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