Carnot engine efficiency * Carnot refrigerator efficiency

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Carnot engine efficiency is defined by the formula ηwork = 1 - Tc/Th, while Carnot refrigeration efficiency is given by ηcool = Tc/(Th - Tc). When combining both efficiencies under the same hot and cold reservoirs, the resulting efficiency is ηcombined = Tc/Th. This indicates that balancing heat engine work with refrigeration can maximize energy consumption efficiency, particularly in scenarios with minimal ambient temperature differences. The discussion highlights the relationship between the coefficient of performance (COP) and efficiency, clarifying that COP is not the same as efficiency.

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Carnot engine efficiency is:
\eta_{work} = 1 - \frac{T_c}{T_h}
Carnot refrigeration efficiency is:
\eta_{cool} = \frac{ T_c }{T_h-T_c}
\eta_{cool} = \frac{ 1 }{\frac{T_h}{T_c} - 1}

Simple multiplication should give me the efficiency where both the engine and the refrigeration share the same hot and cold reservoirs:
\eta_{combined} = \frac{ 1 - \frac{T_c}{T_h} }{\frac{T_h}{T_c} - 1}

Combining this we get:
\eta_{combined} = \frac{T_c}{T_h}

This is a rather strange result. It seems as though we could maximize the efficiency of energy consumption if we simply balanced heat engine work with refrigeration and relied on very small ambient temperature differences. That's very counter-intuitive.

Though, \frac{T_c}{T_h} is also the fraction of input energy into the Carnot engine that gets dumped out as heat. So that balances it out I guess.

Maybe its basically a fancy way to slow down the transfer of heat from hot to cold.
Maybe that's what "thermal insulators" actually are - a mass assembly of very tiny Carnot heat engines and refrigerators :rolleyes:
 
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Are you familiar with efficiency and COP ( coeficient of performance )

See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cycle
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance

Carnot engine efficiency is:
η work =1−T c T h

That is correct :
η = work ouput / heat input from the hot resevoir
or
η = W / Qhot

Carnot refrigeration efficiency is:
η cool =T c T h −T c

Incorrect. That is COP and not efficiency

For cooling
COP = heat removed from cold resevoir / amount of work input
or
COP = Qcold / Work

So you see, you are not comparing the same resevoir.
 
Either way, what was proved here was that if you hook up a carnot heat pump to a carnot heat engine, the best efficiency you can hope for is 100% and the wider the temperature difference, the lower the efficiency gets.
 

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