Temperatures of the hot source and cold sink in a heat engine

In summary, the conversation discusses the efficiency of a non-Carnot cycle and how to calculate it using the formula \eta = 1-\left|\frac{Q_{\rm out}}{Q_{\rm in}}\right|. The individual heat exchanges during the cycle and their temperatures are also discussed. The conversation ultimately concludes that the temperatures of the heat exchanges do not refer to the individual transformations in the cycle, but to the reservoirs.
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FranzDiCoccio
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Hi,
I was just wondering about the efficiency of a cycle that is not Carnot cycle.

In that case one should use [itex]\eta = 1-\left|\frac{Q_{\rm out}}{Q_{\rm in}}\right|[/itex], where [itex]Q_{\rm in}[/itex] and [itex]Q_{\rm out}[/itex] are the amounts of heat absorbed and released during the cycle.

For instance, I guess that in an (ideal) Stirling cycle (isochoric - isothermal expansion - isochoric - isothermal compression) [itex]Q_{\rm in}[/itex] involves the isochoric transformation with increasing temperature and the isothermal expansion, while [itex]Q_{\rm out}[/itex] involves the remaining two transformations.
I quickly browsed online and I actually found something like that.

Now the usual diagram for a generic machine (at least in my textbook) seems to suggest that [itex]Q_{\rm in}[/itex] is absorbed from a heat resevoir at some temperature [itex]T_h[/itex] and [itex]Q_{\rm out}[/itex] released into a heat sink at a lower temperature [itex]T_c<T_h[/itex].
See e.g. this one I found on the web, which is similar to the ones in my textbook
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But, in the case of the Stirling cycle, what does it really mean that [itex]Q_{\rm in}=Q_{\rm isothermal}+Q_{\rm isochoric}[/itex] is absorbed "at [itex]T_h[/itex]"? It seems to me that this could apply to the isothermal part only, because the heat intake in the isochoric process does not happen at a fixed temperature...Are all of these diagrams actually referring to a Carnot engine?
Or perhaps this has to do with the fact that any cycle can be decomposed into many Carnot cycles, so ultimately the diagrams assume that the heat exchanges happen at fixed temperatures?

Thanks a lot for any insight.
Franz
 
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In a Stirling cycle, the only heat added from the hot reservoir is during the isothermal process at ##T_H##, while all the heat rejected to the cold reservoir would take place during the other isothermal process at ##T_L##. The heat interactions during the isochoric processes are internal - i.e., from heat stored in and taken from the regenerator. Heat rejected to the regenerator during the isochoric cooling is absorbed during the iscochoric heating. These heat interactions do not see the thermal reservoirs. Note this assumes the regenerator is 100% efficient.
 
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Hi mfig,
thanks for your reply and the interesting insight.

My doubt was much more basic, though. The Stirling cycle was just an example. Any non-Carnot cycle would have done.

I was focusing on the (high school) textbook diagrams, and I thought that the two temperatures of the reservoirs should refer to the thermodynamic cycle too. Hence I could not understand how a transformation that is not isothermal could happen at a fixed temperature.

Now I see I was thinking it wrong, and it seems to me that I have a clearer picture.
The temperatures of the heat exchanges do not refer to the individual transformations in the cycle.
They refer to the reservoirs which, by definition, (ideally) are systems capable of exchanging any amount of heat while keeping their temperature unchanged.

In a cycle, heat can be absorbed from a reservoir at a fixed temperature during any transformation, no matter if isothermal or not. If the process is not isothermal, this will cause an increase of temperature of the working substance.

Thanks again
Francesco
 

1. What is a heat engine?

A heat engine is a device that converts thermal energy into mechanical energy. It typically consists of a hot source, a cold sink, and a working substance that undergoes a thermodynamic cycle to produce work.

2. What is the hot source in a heat engine?

The hot source is the part of the heat engine that provides the thermal energy. It is usually a high-temperature heat reservoir, such as a burning fuel or a nuclear reactor.

3. What is the cold sink in a heat engine?

The cold sink is the part of the heat engine that absorbs the waste heat and dissipates it into the environment. It is typically a low-temperature heat reservoir, such as a body of water or the surrounding air.

4. Why is it important to have a temperature difference between the hot source and cold sink in a heat engine?

The temperature difference between the hot source and cold sink is essential for the operation of a heat engine. It allows for the transfer of thermal energy from the hot source to the cold sink, which drives the thermodynamic cycle and produces work.

5. How does the temperature of the hot source and cold sink affect the efficiency of a heat engine?

The efficiency of a heat engine is directly related to the temperature difference between the hot source and cold sink. A larger temperature difference results in a higher efficiency, while a smaller temperature difference leads to a lower efficiency. This is due to the Carnot efficiency, which states that the maximum efficiency of a heat engine is determined by the ratio of the temperatures of the hot source and cold sink.

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